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Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals Town Hall
MEETING DATE: July 23, 2013 20 Middlebush Road
TIME: 7:30 PM Wappinger Falls, NY
Site Visits: Fernandes-24 Losee Road
Lutterschmidt-8 Rich Drive
Younge-20 Sky Top
Porter- 398 Maloney Road
Public Hearings:
Aupeal No. 13-7495
Frank Porter-Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulations in
an R-40 Zoning District.
-Where a 50 foot rear yard setback is required for the installation of a 15 x 20 A/G
pool with no deck, the applicant can only provide 27 feet to the rear nronerty line,
thus requesting a 23 foot variance.
The property is located at 398 Maloney Rd and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6259-
02-951801.
Aupeal No. 13-7498
Rui & ]osefa Fernandes- Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning
Regulations in a R 40 Zoning District.
-Where an approved shed was placed in front of house not according to approved
building permit. The Zoning Code of the Town of Wappinger states ~~Accessory
Structures must comply with all minimum yard setback requirements for buildings, but
in no case shall thev be uermitted in the front vard"
The property is located at 24 Losee Road and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6157-
02-913638.
Aupeal No. 13-7499
Florence Lutterschmidt-Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning
Regulation in an R-20 Zoning District.
-Where a 20 foot side vard setback is required for an existing 24 x 16 garage, the
applicant can only provide 16 feet to the rear property line, thus requesting a 4 foot
variance.
The property is located at 8 Rich Drive and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6257-02-
849861 in the Town of Wauainaer
Au~eal No. 13-7500
]ennifer Younae-Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulation
in an R-40/80 Zoning District.
-Where a 40 foot side yard setback is required for an existing 20 x 12 car port shed,
the applicant can only provide 15 feet to the rear property line, thus requesting a 25
foot variance.
-Where the code states...in no case shall Accessory Structures be uermitted in
the front yard the applicant requests a variance for an existing 12 x 20 shed in her front
yard.
The property is located at 20 Skv Top Drive and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6056-
01-296750 in the Town of Wauuin4er
Discussions:
Appeal No. 13-7501
Catherine Kalinski- Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulation
in an R-15 Zoning District.
-Where the maximum size of an accessory apartment shall be subordinate in area to the
principal dwelling and shall not exceed 35% of the gross floor area of said principal
dwelling and in no event exceed 1,000 square feet of gross floor area, the applicant can
provide 40%, thus requesting a 5% variance.
The property is located at 8 Midge Drive and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6156-01-
445721 in the Town of Wappinger.
Aooeal No. 13-7502
Michael Smith _Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulation in
an R-40/80 Zoning District.
-Where a 50 foot front vard setback is required for the installation of a 20 x 34 A/G
pool with deck, the applicant can only provide 26 feet thus requesting a 24 foot
variance.
-Where a 40 foot right side vard setback is required for the installation of a 20 x 34
A/G pool with deck, the applicant can only provide 22 feet thus requesting an 18 foot
variance.
The property is located at 47 Marlorville Road and is identified by Tax Grid No.
6157-01-008835 in the Town of Wappinger.
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Town of Wappinger
Zoning Board of Appeals
July 23, 2013
Summarized Minutes
Members: Mr. Prager
Mr. Della Corte
Mr. Casella
Mr. Johnston
Mr. Galotti
July 23, 2013 Minutes
Town Hall
20 Middlebush Road
Wappinger Falls, NY
Chairman
Member -Absent
Member
Member
Member
Others Present:
Mrs. Barbara Roberti Zoning Administrator
Ms. Sue Rose Secretary
SUMMARY
Frank Porter Public Hearing -Granted
Rui & Josefa Fernandes Public Hearing-Granted
Florence Lutterschmidt Public Hearing-Granted
Jennifer Younge Public Hearing-Adjourned until Sept. 10th
Catherine Kalinski Discussion-Public Hearing August 13~'
Michael Smith Discussion- Public Hearing August 13th & Site Visit
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Mr. Prager: I would like to call the Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals
to order. Roll call please.
Ms. Rose: Howard Prager-----Here
Tom Della Corte- --Absent
AI Casella-----------Here
Bob Johnston-------Here
Peter Galotti--------Here
Mr. Prager: First item on tonight's agenda is a Public Hearing on:
Aaoeal No. 13-7495
Frank Porter-Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulations in
an R-40 Zoning District.
-Where a 50 foot rear yard setback is required for the installation of a 15 x 20 A/G
pool with no deck, the applicant can only provide 27 feet to the rear uronerty line,
thus requesting a 23 foot variance.
The property is located at 398 Maloney Rd and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6259-
02-951801.
Mr. Prager: Are all the mailings in?
Ms. Rose: Yes sir.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to open the Public Hearing?
Mr. Casella: I make a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Mr. ]ohnston: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Please state your name for the record and why you need this
variance.
Mr. Porter: My name is Frank Porter. We only have a front yard and our house
sits back approximately 80 feet off the road. We have a small back
yard which is the only place to put a pool.
Mr. Prager: It is an above ground pool?
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Mr. Porter: Yes.
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Mr. Prager: We did do a site visit. You are up a hill and you really don't have
much room in the back.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyone in the audience for or against this variance?
Ms. Gunther: My name is Liz Gunther. I live at 1 Maloney Drive and I am his
neighbor. I am behind him and he doesn't have much of a back
yard. He does have side yards and a front yard. They are a nice
family and they have good kids. I have no objection of them
putting in a pool. I just don't want it under my bedroom window.
The way it is situated it will be under my window. I just found out
that the town does not allow pools in the front and side yards.
Mr. Prager: I know one side has the septic system and that rules that out. The
other side goes up hill. If I owned this property, I would have the
pool put there. It is a hard piece of property. Is there any way you
can get it closer to your house.
Mr. Porter: They said they can only install it 10 feet away but they will do it 6
feet away and we are putting it as far right as possible.
Mr. Johnston: What size pool is it?
Mr. Porter: 15 X 20.
Mr. Johnston: Did you already purchase it?
Mr. Porter: A deposit.
Ms. Gunther: Can I say something? These people are decent people. Do you
promise not to have parties there at 12 at night? That is all I care
about.
Mrs. Porter: My kids are in bed at 8:00 at night.
Ms. Gunther: That is all I want to know. These are good people and the kids are
good. I have never had problems with his kids. I don't want to
deny them a pool.
Mr. Johnston: You do know that the variance goes with the property.
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Ms. Gunther: Yes.
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Mr. Casella: Will you have a tanker come in and fill your pool.
Mr. Porter: Yes.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyone else for or against this variance?
Mr. Prager: Hearing none, can I have a motion to close the Public Hearing?
Mr. Casella: I make a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Mr. Galotti: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to grant or deny this variance?
Mr. Casella: I make a motion to grant this variance.
Mr. Galotti: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Ms. Rose: AI Casella Yes
Peter Galotti Yes
Bob Johnston Yes
Howard Johnston Yes
Mr. Prager: Next on the agenda is another Public Hearing for:
Appeal No. 13-7498
Rui & 7osefa Fernandes- Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning
Regulations in a R 40 Zoning District.
-Where an approved shed was placed in front of house not according to approved
building permit. The Zoning Code of the Town of Wappinger states "Accessory
Structures must comply with all minimum yard setback requirements for buildings, but
in no case shall thev be permitted in the front vard".
The property is located at 24 Losee Road and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6157-
02-913638.
Mr. Prager: Sue, are all the mailings in order?
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Ms. Rose: Yes sir.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to open the Public Hearing?
Mr. Johnston: I make a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Mr. Galotti: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Please state your name for the record.
Mr. Fernandes: My name is Rui Fernandes and I live at 24 Losee Road.
Mr. Prager: We did go out for a site inspection. Please explain why you need
this variance.
Mr. Fernandes: In the back there really isn't any room for it. In the front is the
septic system and pump station. We thought putting it there would
be the best spot.
Mr. Prager: Did you have a building permit for this?
Mr. Fernandes: Yes.
Mrs. Roberti: They did get a building permit for the shed but the plot plan shows
it on the side of the house. When it was delivered it was put in the
front of the house and the building inspector picked up on it.
Mr. Prager: We did do a site visit. It is a very unique property. If I didn't know
where it was, I would still be driving around looking for it. You are
right; there is no room on the upper side. Does anyone have any
questions?
Mr. Galotti: How long has the shed been there?
Mr. Fernandes: About 10 years.
Mr. Prager: How long have you owned the property?
Mr. Fernandes: About 12 years.
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Mr. Casella: Do you plan on putting in electric? I noticed there was an electrical
cord.
Mr. Fernandes: No.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyone in the audience for or against this variance?
Mr. Prager: Hearing none, can I have a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Mr. Casella: I make a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Mr.7ohnston: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to grant or deny this variance?
Mr. Johnston: I make a motion to grant this variance.
Mr. Casella: Second.
Ms. Rose: AI Casella Yes
Peter Galotti Yes
Bob Johnston Yes
Howard Prager Yes
Mr. Prager: Next on the agenda is another Public Hearing on:
Appeal No. 13-7499
Florence Lutterschmidt-Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning
Regulation in an R-20 Zoning District.
-Where a 20 foot side vard setback is required for an existing 24 x 16 garage, the
applicant can only provide 16 feet to the rear property line, thus requesting a 4 foot
variance.
The property is located at 8 Rich Drive and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6257-02-
849861 in the Town of Waupinger.
Mr. Prager: Are all the mailings in order?
Ms. Rose: Yes, sir.
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Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to open the Public Hearing?
Mr. Casella: I make a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Mr. Galotti: Second
Mr. Prager: All in favor.
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Please come up on give us your name.
Ms. Dutcher: My name is Jill Dutcher and I represent the Lutterschmidt's.
Mr. Prager: We have a small problem. We were out to the property and
nothing was marked out and we didn't have a survey but we have
one now. (Board reviews survey)
Mr. Prager: The site plan shows 8 feet from the chain link fence. You are
asking for a variance for 4 feet.
Ms. Dutcher: Sal Morello, your building inspector, went out and measured and
said we needed 4 feet. Which is confusing to all of us because if no
one could find the side line, how did he come up with a 4 foot
variance?
Mr. Prager: I agree with you.
Ms. Dutcher: It now appears that we need a 12 foot variance.
Mr. Prager: It is going to be a 12 foot variance instead of 4 feet. We saw
shrubs there, who owns the shrubs?
Ms. Dutcher: The next door neighbor does not know where their property line is.
They don't even have a survey. Mr. Oswald was hired by us
yesterday and he went out and did the survey.
Mr. Johnston: Is the pool in compliance?
Mrs. Roberti: Not by today's standards but it does have a C/O. It was put in in
the '80's and back in the '80's most accessory structures needed 10
feet. The garage was built back in the'80's and was not legalized
and now has to be legalized by our standards now and that is why
a 20 foot setback is needed.
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Mr. Galotti: Has the garage been there as long as the house?
Ms. Dutcher: Since 1978. The current owner, which is deceased, purchased the
house in 1985 and the garage was there.
Mr. Johnston: The current owner bought the house and the garage was there?
Ms. Dutcher: Yes, it did not come up in the title search back then.
Ms. Roberti: The pool was put in back in the'80's and the garage was not there
in the early ~80's because it was not on the plot plan. It was put in
before the Lutterschmidt's bought the house. The prior owners in
the early ~80's put it in and never obtained a building permit. When
they did c/o search back then, they didn't have the staff and they
did not go out to the property. It wasn't picked up and these
people bought it and now 30 years later we go out when we do c/o
searches and that is how the garage was picked up.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyone in the audience for or against this variance?
Mr. Prager: Let the record show no one in the audience is for or against this
variance.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to close the Public Hearing?
Mr. ]ohnston: I make a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Mr. Galotti: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to grant or deny this variance?
Mr. Johnston: I make a motion to grant this variance.
Mr. Galotti: Second.
Ms. Rose: AI Casella No
Bob Johnston Yes
Peter Galotti Yes
Howard Prager Yes
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Mr. Prager: Next on the agenda is another Public Hearing:
Apueal No. 13-7500
Jennifer Younge-Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulation
in an R-40/80 Zoning District.
-Where a 40 foot side yard setback is required for an existing 20 x 12 car port shed,
the applicant can only provide 15 feet to the side property line, thus requesting a 25
foot variance.
-Where the code states...in no case shall Accessory Structures be permitted in
the front yard the applicant requests a variance for an existing 12 x 20 shed in her front
yard.
The property is located at 20 Skv Top Drive and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6056-
01-296750 in the Town of Wauuinger.
Mr. Prager: Are all the mailings in order?
Ms. Rose: Yes sir.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to open the Public Hearing?
Mr. Galotti: I make a motion to open the Public Hearing.
Mr. Casella: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Please state your name for the record.
Ms. Younger My name is Jennifer Younge. I have a car port that has been put
in place for 5 years. My neighbors support my desire to leave it in
place. It does not affect the property value according to my real
estate agent. I use the shed in the winter time to store wood and
my snow plow and year round I use it to trap the neighborhood
feral cats. I have a successful program doing that. I really want
the shed to stay where it is.
Mr. Johnston: How much property do you have?
Ms. Younge: I have 2 1/4 acres but I only maintain a 1/3 of it. If I move the car
port to the back yard, I don't think the cats will go there. It will be
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no use to me because I couldn't put my snow plow there because I
cannot access the driveway. It is the best place for it.
Mr. Johnston: The cats don't go in the back yard?
Ms. Younger No because they live across the street. Feral cats tend not to stray
to far away from their home.
Mr. Johnston: How long have you been doing this?
Ms. Younge: 5 years. The neighbors and I have seen a reduction in the feral cat
population.
Mr. Casella: Is there really no other place to put it. Are there other car ports in
your neighborhood?
Ms. Younge: Yes but not many. Most of the neighbors don't have garages. We
have a lot of boats with tarps over them.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyone in the audience for or against this?
Mr. Prager: Hearing none, can I have a motion to close the Public Hearing?
Mr. ]ohnston: I make a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Mr. Casella: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board: Aye.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion to grant or deny this variance?
Mr. Galotti: I'm at a little of a loss because I wasn't able to do a site visit. My
only reservation is that it is a large piece of property and there
couldn't be another spot for it; it is 2 ~/4 acres.
Ms. Younge: I don't maintain a lot of the property. If I have to move it to be
in compliance, I may as well take it down.
Mr. Galotti: I think it is very noble what you are doing with the cats but that is
not why we are here.
Mr. Johnston: Mr. Chairman, since we do not have a full panel can we give her a
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choice of postponing the vote?
Mr. Prager: Would you like to wait until we have a full panel?
Mr. Galotti: I am going to abstain because I wasn't there and I will get out
there this week.
Ms. Younger If all of my neighbor's say it is fine, what is your concern?
Mr. Casella: There are certain criteria's that need to be filled.
Ms. Younge: I'll postpone the vote.
Mr. Prager: The next item on the agenda is a discussion on:
Appeal No. 13-7501
Catherine Kalinski- Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulation
in an R-15 Zoning District.
-Where the maximum size of an accessory apartment shall be subordinate in area to the
principal dwelling and shall not exceed 35% of the gross floor area of said principal
dwelling and in no event exceed 1,000 square feet of gross floor area, the applicant can
provide 40%, thus requesting a 5% variance.
The property is located at 8 Midge Drive and is identified by Tax Grid No. 6156-01-
445721 in the Town of Wappinger.
Mr. Prager: Please come up and state your name, address and why you need this
variance.
Ms. Kalinski: My name is Cathy Kalinski I live at 8 Midge Drive. I bought the house
in 1986 with the apartment. I recently put in a furnace and when the
inspector came to inspect the furnace he said I have an illegal
apartment. I told him I bought the house like this and family lives
here. We were told it was a legal Mother/Daughter but not a legal
two family house. My sister lives down stairs and I live up stairs.
Mr. Prager: We have seen situations like this before.
Ms. Kalinski: We have had inspectors out before and they classified it as a summer
kitchen.
Mr. Johnston: Is there a separation between the top and bottom floor?
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Ms. Kalinski: There is a door but it's never locked. It's two separate kitchens but
we eat together every night.
Mrs. Roberti: There are a lot of homes like this. They have put in summer
kitchens or illegal apartments and were never caught. It is
unfortunate that people by them. The brokers tell them it is fine
and it's aMother/Daughter and then situations like this come up.
We have an accessory apartment law for these conditions, for
example two sisters, mother/father, or son/daughter. Ms. Kalinski
is trying to legalize it. The importance of this is if they decided to
sell it, it is now legal. The new homeowner will have to come in
and register it as an accessory apartment because the paper work
is filed with the deed.
Mr. Prager: Does anyone have any question? Do we need to go out and see it?
Board: No.
Mr. Prager: We will waive the site inspection. We will have our Public
Hearing for the next meeting.
Mr. Prager: Next on the agenda is:
Appeal No. 13-7502
Michael Smith _Is seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of Zoning Regulation in
an R-40/80 Zoning District.
-Where a 50 foot front yard setback is required for the installation of a 20 x 34 A/G
pool with deck, the applicant can only provide 26 feet thus requesting a 24 foot
variance.
-Where a 40 foot right side yard setback is required for the installation of a 20 x 34
A/G pool with deck, the applicant can only provide 22 feet thus requesting an 18 foot
variance.
The property is located at 47 Marlorville Road and is identified by Tax Grid No.
6157-01-008835 in the Town of Wappinger.
Mr. Prager: Please state your name for the record.
Mr. Smith: My name is Michael Smith.
Mr. Prager: Does this pool exist?
Mr. Smith: No, it's not in yet.
Mr. Prager: I noticed you have a barn.
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Mr. Smith: No, it was taken down.
Mr. Johnston: Is there a reason why you are not putting it behind the house?
Mr. Smith: There are too many trees back there. It would be too shady. It is
perfect where we want to put it. Any further up, it would be on
top of the septic.
Mr. Prager: What if you turn it 90 degrees?
Mrs. Roberti: I just want to point out that he has a very small piece of property.
It is less than a ~/a of an acre and it's an R 40 district. In any
direction he would need 2 variances.
Mr. Prager: We will have a site inspection and please mark out where the pool
is going to be and also your property lines.
Mr. Johnston: How long has the house been there?
Mr. Smith: From 1900.
Mr. Prager: New starting time will be 7:OOPM starting August 27tH
Mr. Galotti: I make a motion to change the starting time to 7:OOPM
starting August 27~'.
Mr. Casella: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor?
Board : Aye.
Mr. Galotti: I make a motion to adjourn.
Mr. ]ohnston: Second.
Mr. Prager: All in favor
Board: Aye.
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Respectfully Submitted,
Susan Rose, Secretary
Zoning Board of Appeals
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