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Recreation Barn- Montfort Rd.E3 PAGGI & MARTIN Consulting Engineers & Land Surveyors 54-56 Main Street Poughkeepsie, New York 12601 914-471--7 898 September 11, 1995 Town Board Town of Wappinger P.O. Box 324 Wappingers Falls, New York 12590 Attention: Constance 0. Smith, Supervisor Reference: Water Supply for the Town Recreation Site Montfort Road Dear Supervisor Smith and Board Members,: At the August 28, 1995 Town Board Meeting, our office was authorized to look at the feasibility of tieing the Town of Wappinger Recreation Barn on Montfort Road into the distribution line of the Central Wappinger Water Improvement. Also that night, it was requested that Carno Pollution Control take a sample: of the existing well on the Town Barn site to determine the water's potability. I recently spoke with John Tremper of Camo, who stated to me that the coliform test on the well sample came back satisfactory. Another area that was discussed that night was whether or not the site was within the boundaries of the Central Wappinger Water Improvement Area. I researched this with the original map and found that, yes, the property is within the boundaries of the Improvement. There are two (2) alternatives to tie this site into the distribution system of Central Wappinger Water. The first alternative would be to run a long service connection from the existing water main on Elizabeth Terrace, across property owned by the Town of Wappinger, to the Barn. This service line would need to be sized due to its inordinate length, and would provide domestic water service only to the Barn. The second alternative would be to loop the water main that presently dead ends at Montfort Road and Shale Drive with the existing water main that dead ends on Pye Lane. OD Joseph E. Paggi, Jr., P. E. Ernst Martin, Jr., P.E_ L.S. 13 printed on recycled paper Constance 0. Smith - 2 - September 11, 1995 RE: Barn/Montfort Road This was presently anticipated in the original Map, Plan and Report for Central Wappinger Water in the early 70's, but was never done due to lack of funds. Obviously, this is a much more costly alternative, but would also provide service to the lots that it would pass and fire protection to those lots as well as the Town Barn: A brief desktop calculations. av to. the cost for this. water lin, a would be between, $200,000.00 to $250,000.00. If the Board would like to pursue this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very truly yours, f� Joseph E. Paggi, Jr., P. . JEP:Iaw Enclosure cc: Albert P. 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The water that is currently at the site is well water and is heavily sulfur and is not drinkable. The funds for this project arc in the A-7110.4 account of the Recreation Budget. R.J.H. mbr TOWN OF WAPPINGER RECREATION COMM155ION CONSTANCE G. SMITH P.O. BOX 324 SUPERVISOR 20 MIDDLEBUSH ROAD WAPPINGERS FALLS, N.Y. 12590-0324 August 13, 1993 FROM: RALPH J. HOLT, CHAIRMAN RE: STORAGE BUILDING AT MONTFORT ROAD It has been our intention to construct a pole building at our recreation site on Montfort Road to handle some parking and additional storage. We had your approval to buy some of the needed materials a year ago and this we did. We would now like to proceed to construct this building. We have cleared" the area on which we would like to build and with the Summer programs concluding this would be the time to proceed. We estimate the cost of construction to be around $6,000. This we have in our budget A-7110.4. We feel the addition of this building would cover the growing needs for recreational maintenance for a number of years. We request your approval to do this construction. Thank you. RJH: mbr 9aft) //V'rteN R. J. Holt X", TIAGGI & MARTIN Consulting Enginee;-s & Land Surveywu 54-56 Main Street Poughkeepsie, New York 12601 '914-471-7898 RECEIVED July 11, 1988 JUL 14 1988 ELAINE H. SNOWDEN Mr. Ralph Holt, Chairman Town Clerk Town of Wappinger Recreation Commission Box 324 20 Middlebush Road Wappingers Falls, New York 12590 I am in receipt of your correspondence to the Town Board dated July 5, 1988 and am in full agreement that the Realignment is in the best interest of the Town of Wappinger. I have been advised, however, that transfer of property that has been specifically dedicated as parkland requires special action to be'taken. I would recommend that this correspondence be directed to the Town Attorney for his review prior to taking this action too far. if you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at this office. Very truly yours, Joseph E. Paggi, Jr., P.E. JEP:hs Town'Bo cc: ' I a r d Elaine Snowden, Town Clerk 87-003(129) Joseph E. Tagg', Jr., 11. 17_ Fxrist Martin, Jr., P.E., 1-5. n TOWN O F WP P^ N G ER /' 8EC8E/1Tl0�� CO84&{JS81U�� UU ~-~ uuML STREET wv*PpxmGsmS FALLS, N, Y� 12590 FROM: RECREATION COMMISSION RE: PRQPERTY RE -ALIGNMENT I am seeking your approval to have the property lines existing between the Town property on Montfort Road (The Maintenance/Recreation Barn) and that of Mr. Joseph Fulton, owner of the property adjacunt to the Town property re- aligned. We have met with our Engineer to the Town Mr. Paggi and with your approval he is prepared to proceed to initiate the necessary paper work to effect this change. We have also had preliminary discussions with Mr. Fulton and he indicates he is in agreement with this change. This re-aIignmant is in the best intarest of the Town and of Mr. Fultcn. May we have your app; uva1 to proceed. Sincerely, Ral�� J. Holt Chairman Rit! :mbr cop J. Paggi P.S. Attached for your information is a map which outlines the changes we wish to make. If there are any questions, please contact myself or Mr. Paggi. H coeling- ow, ISO* 'WT ji AMy U, 17 to - ,,,,6 VAT -c-N+0> Al MeA zt'Aji' -os-2,ze" TA;� Glzlp "*' 6pq"o 141DIU9101 TOWN OF WAPPINGER RECREATION COMMI55ION 20 MIDDLEBUSH ROAD WAPPINGERS FALLS. N.Y. 12590 FROM: RALPH J. HOLT, CHAIRMAN January 24, 1989 RE: PROPERTY REALIGNMENT AT MONTFORT ROAD PROPERTY At a meeting of the Town Board and Members of the Recreation Commission held in August of 1988 at the Town owned property on Montfort Road, it was decided to put the handling of the property realignment in the hands of the Attorney to the Town. We have sought a status on where this stands and the Attorney indicated that he has to have a request from the Town Board asking him to proceed in determining an equitable solution between the Town and the other owner of the property involved in the property realignment. proceed. Would you please authorize the Attorney to the Town to Thank you. R.J. Holt RJH:mbr cc: Thomas Wood, Esq. G „ motif f mµ6.d w,., 91 (), TOWN OF WAPPINGER RECHATION COMM155,10N 20 MIDOLEGusH ROAD WAPPINGERS FALLS, N.Y, 12590 MEMO TO: DAVID REIS FROM; RALPH J. HOLT RE: BARN ON MONTFORT ROAD lay 6, 1988 The Recreation Commission iu extremely interestec" in getting the property line between the barn and Mr. Fulton re -aligned as soon as possible to prevent any possible problems. We are asking your help and direction in getting approval - for this project. If I should write a letter for the nex,. 7o,,�n Boar" Meeting, please let me know. Sincerely, Ralph J. Holt Chairman mb r cc. Irene Paino EN OWN OF WAPPINGER RECREATION COMMISSION MILL STREET WAPPINGERS FALLS, N. Y. 12590 July 31, 1984 MEMO TO: TOWN BOARD MEMBERS FROM: RECREATION COMMISSION RE: BARN LOCATED ON MONTFORT ROAD At the July 19, 1984 meeting of the Recreation Commission the attached information concerning the refurbishment of the Recreation Barn on Montfort Road was presented. After the Commissioners reviewed the information, it was recommended that it be presented to the Town Board for their consideration and comments. Please advise us as to what further action is to be taken. Hugh J. Maurer Chairman mbr Attached Report --Re Co YnmevJCL4j'.0,q-s FrLoe Up FanZ cleq)- eeW Al,,e neczofsar IA WO VIEarn , LOC ure Uf P�af,? pla*7 E_X7��We'l Viale cJo CL Cco of , ski ') I leo V f Inc C &*. reAre4-4vK . 4 MOKJrFORT ROAD BARN PROTECT Two p4cka-jes _B6 oc vi Do n e, 0 E�ruc&re-s S-otkpir cess. Two p4cka-jes 5ey-& Au us 198Z V)83 One 8;d --rw o IFOLA r ); rre Is -T�rre- 's;IS Re c reo, I h %IS I opl V Mxjor;f/ Vofe ele&W Lui� roj4 al Tu vie- V) 194 mee Gt 4f $ I ffec F + 0 C4�z,?Ks �R *. Ti.� r 1 ^ • 4 +Arl �i, 7 R fi� F�r"'� y*��•Aw � h` �r it t.. � _ � R."��` C R'•� R" "r� � ;•,fir, w s' r w � !1 i°. '� rFS,M .kit •�,y+'„. �, - 4 1C d G ..^ y.... " ,;� 11' " hr�� ✓,' i F'a x lu r w'�. �, � is � w h � ^ t� V a 'j'. ► k _ F. �I ri,'��,' ,�c �, � �hr # e �. -L* rwh.a. F�}'Y r T pry ( �jg' � vW y, i'• .�i CM , * R �• ^ F ~ Ww� i � k �� J M 'T � `Y. iueJ �1 y i A r 9'� d b • •. r r , e N�1�1 Montpelier Cultural Arts Center Montpelier Mansion Grounds, Laurel, Maryland, tan competition in San Francisco, Oakland, and San ]use. Perhaps the most important factor mentioned repeatedly was the un- fortunate "short interest span" "of government agencies supporting the arts, We heard about instances in which interest in promoting the arts was very strong for three to four years and then diminished because of lack of government support. The best example of this situation was in Seattle. rr he success of the arts programs JL resulted from an extremely suc- cessful bond program held in 1975 -- "Forward Thrust." This bond issue gave the city significant funding for acquisition, development, and reconstruction of a number of facilities for use by the arts programs, Because of a changing lifestyle— people now dress in beach attire at home ---beach bathhouses were no longer being used. The city converted them into three unique arts facilities, One became a 'black box theater" and was called, appropriately, "Seat - Iles Bathhouse Theater." It has ap- proximately 150 seats and a 20 - by -20 -foot performing stage. Another bathhouse was turned into the Modrona Dance Center. It was significantly remodeled and now provides two suspended woodfloor dance studios. The Center is used for dance instruction on a fee basis. Approximately 1,600 students attend each of the four sessions a year. Seward Center is a ceramic/pottery studio and gallery, also converted from a bathhouse. The facility offers a number of pro- grams in ceramics and pottery and is supported by fees. It also provides studio space for professional artists. In addition, a twice -yearly sale of ob- jects crafted at the facility yields funds to supplement the operating budget. In January, city funding stopped because of financial constraints. All of the facilities entered into a conces- sion contract with the city providing the facility for a small percentage of the revenue generated (one percent to three percent). The Dance Center will probably be able to make it on its own. The Bathhouse Theater will need to raise approximately $90,000, and the Seward Center will also need to raise substantial funds. With the economy of the area already depressed, the survival of these arts programs is questionable. If cities really want to promote the arts, it will be necessary for them to take a long-range point of view and i recognize that the arts have limited potential to be self-sustaining. Arts programs that continue to grow and develop need long-term public and private (corporate) support. The arts have been sustained in Minneapolis because of a significant funding commitment by private in- dustry --both for capital develop- ment and, more recently, for opera- tions. Minneapolis has traditionally been known for its trend -setting cor- porate giving; the 5% Club has received national acclaim in the sphere of corporate giving. n conclusion, we learned a great deal on our visit to Some of this country's arts establishment, Some of the information we brought back to Sunnyvalle we already knew; other information was new and held a fresh perspective. A city should con- sider what role it will play in the promotion of cultural arts programs. First, the city administrators should address the needs of the local arts community and how the city government can work with and foster existing programs. The government should not dictate what arts programs are operated; rather, it should support them. A truly unique and significant arts program needs artistic direction and Continued on page 54 PARKS & RECREATION/JULY 1982 29 TOWN OF WAPPINGER RECREATION COMMISSION WILL STREET WAPPINGERS FALLS. N. Y. 1259�O FROM: RECREATION COMMI55ION RE: MONTFORT ROAD BARN PROJECT We have received three bids for the Ist phase of this project. Eleven bids were sent out. Two of the bidders are within 53,000.00 of each other with an innovative approach spelled out by Silvestri to save about 31,000.00 an the flooring. The Town Recreation Commission recommends going with Silvestrl". The extent cf these funds will do the following: I, Tutton up securely the said premises. - 2. qepair zoof. yecalr floor. -rang eiectricai service to the barn. This basic mase will allow us to use the barn facilities for Spring-6ummer-Faij activities. It is not our intent-4cn to ever heat the barn ana try to use it during the winter. Long range (next three to five years) We Will 4ncrementaily .6 build up the facility by: 1. Cleaning up lower level and pouring concrete floor. 2. Refurnisn Plumoing and bathrooms so that 4 iart-- facilities can be off-ioadeo. lqi:- up interior iiQMting and wiring for future indoor events. 4. 3ul-ld closets - storage compartments. Each of these follow up activities will probably cast 45,JOO. .�O or less and will be handled serially. Very long ranee plans for the barn have yet to be proposed. e For examol: it could be used as a locker facility if a community pool were built oehino the tennis courts. We recommend 'hat the work scope bid upon by Silvestri should be undertaken is soon as possibiel RECEIVED 'SEP 8 , 1983 Contractors should bid an Parcels I, II, III, and IV as separate ELAINE H, SNOWDEN entities. If desireable, they may also quote on all four if there is economy to the Town if they do. P &R- CEL 7- 3 7 New roof on Barn 0 Montfort Road. This is to include removal of the old roof and installation of now which should be two layers of 11211 C - D Ply with H clips and 235 # Seal Down Shingles and with 15 Felt underneath. LV, A LLA Y" PLEZLLU 10 Remove current sub flooring and install approximately 1835 Square Feet and lay 1/2" C - D as subficar with 3/4" Tongue and Groove AD . Ply. sanded finish over same. Also move stairwell from present position to rear end of barn. k� P r Seal up with block all windows. Replace 2 loft doors and repair 5 entry doors, and Quick Set Locks an the exterior of the barn. PAR CEL 1V — -) S �,f Re -wire electrical service to Barn (200 Amp.) Note: Town of Wappinger reserves the right to accept or -eject any and all bids. Work to be accomplished Qiished by the winter of 1983. Call for appointment/suzvey of the barn either Hugh J. Maurer at 896-9579 or Frank P. Presti at 237-2222 ---- CXI CD C f.VN'&7 v, 4-ri , C.Z7 9 SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL BID CONTRACTING COMPANY 70 J DATE "' *- I VItt#rT^t a Pate No. - -� jr- eJ� ia�4+sa, STEPHEN Me SILVESTRI RECEIVED 71,77,7& A, 7-77 o777- 777 a 77 F-7 8 198 ELAINE H. SNOW01 PROPOUL SUBMITTED TO DATE ADDRESS6.1 .�. �.+ PHONE DATE OF PIANS JOB NAME AND LOCATIO14 I d ARCHITECT 1OB t'HOWE 'Me hereby SpeCificatlonS and estlmales,,, subleC 10 all Terff�mjjj s and condition, aA eet firth 41, .11, titles, as 1o14gv ,Submit rf �,.F �'d`" tom' // �'1 .t:�' 4. '✓� lt//.7C7 C' q% wl✓! C.. �ry � /"� �' .-'+�yt+ 1,Lle— 61 i n $Read Rover%@ &do) Mr propri6F hereby,t tarnish material and labor complete In accordance with above specification.s. for the sum of: ollars iS P p % Note! This proposal may be withdrawn by us it Authorized not accepted within Xrrp1rh: The above prices, specifications and conditions are satisfactory and are hereby accepted. You Signature are autnarezed to do the work as specified. Payment will be made as outlined above. Date Signature 1��Mlqlm..Ilw CL 0 6% 6 0 C rm 00 0 0 0 (D (D (D (D (D 1—i N N F—j F - no r— M to ID -Z U) (D ca CD (D CA r" CD C+ Otl �n rQ _cr% ZY, I_n C Q1 Tq 1��Mlqlm..Ilw CL 0 6% 6 m m 0 1 74 2.) ;! (,) n i r 09 F -I z Ft 0 C rm z a) no r— M -Z U) (D CD (D CA r" CD C+ CD 0 0 tj > Fl- Fj ca m m 0 1 74 2.) ;! (,) n i r 09 F -I z Ft cn m r CO n aS cc z p PA z a) no r— M -Z cn m r CO n aS cc z p PA vlo� r- die? al. lst4knrnev, )omr ',a gAtj(,E- Use Or YARtJ 140)(;Illm-yy Joel(worl/s W,6 ?it �Um-mer- M"I A14 S�oraje Far" 0// blwk' ForOjra,;,ot-( o.( rpl u i r eal 0 See "'Or ci�,Ze" me A- 5 :0 tete /L50 CC e-11, Ir -d (Ad46K'ttw, 1r-` LOM(l RA-Vl(,E 05 F- , - �" P,,,- F " - 'A L- ) dour !°04C t e A �i'- 0 PI Mee zi r RfOC-%te 0 V7 ZP-1 f 1 r7 40 C'k p apt� 40JI0111-5vcf � /43 r -,g" 4/r Richard Crowley Architect Rhinebeck New York 12572 'Pown of Wappinger Recreation Commission and Town Board c/o Mary Schmalz 7 Edge Hill Manor Wappingers Falls, New York 12590 Dear Commissioners and Board Members, On October 3, 1980, 1 inspected the barn adjacent to the Town tennis courts on Montfort Road at Pye Lane. The barn appears to have been built about 1950 for dairy use on the ground floor -Ath a hay loft above, milk room near one end and a separate silo with enclosed access. The construction is concrete slab on grade with concrete block walls, steel framed "vindows, a wooden loft floor and a wood framed arched roof covered with galvanized steel roofing. There are no cracks visible in the block walls, indicating that the febt ings have stood the test of time very well and that the masonry work is in sound condition. A few pieces of the galvanized sheet metal roofing have worked loose and been blown off. These should be replaced. The larger portion of the roof is in good condition, but some repairs are necessary in one of the valleys where the milk room joins the barn, and the edges of the entire roof need attention and perhaps gutters to control runoff. The ground floor space has been converted from dairy use to general storage, including filling in most of the troughs and drops. While the ceiling joists are quite low (about 716"), the space lends itself to many uses. The east end has been altered to admit large. vehicles t� by cutting out a portion of the loft floor; some repairs may be necessary here. Additional alterations that have occurred include the erection of a cross -partition and compartmentalization for plumbing fixtures near the west end, together with some Insulating of the walls with fiberglas batts. Styrofoam and sheetrock would make a neater and more efficient realteration of the walls if it is proposed to heat the building or a portion of it. The fiberglas could be reserved for ceiling insulation. Insulation of the floor slab at the edges is also recommended. Small trees have begun to grow in several places at the outside edge of the concrete slab; they should be removed before their root systems heave the masonry. rA -2 - Richard Crowley Architect Rhinebeck Now York 12572 The barn is a small classic dairy building, constructed of modern inexpensive materials for efficiency of its original purpose and it wild if kept intact, eventually achieve landmark status. It would make an admirable recreation center because of its manageable size (about 70 feet long) and especially because of its location. Very sincerely yours, 27 October 1980 April 14, 1983 Mr. Hugh J. Maurer# Chairman Town of Wappi.nger Recreation Commission Mill Street Wappingers Falls, N.Y. 12590 Re: Barn—Montfort Road Tear Mr. Maurer: The Town Board agreed that the Barn on Montfort Road should be torn down unless your Commission has specific facts on how you want to use it and the money involved. After their inspection of the Barn they agreed that it is in horrendous shape and the Town has no use for it. However, if you haves facts and fres to present to them, they would be willing to discuss the matter further. At this time they feel the cost would be prohibitive to reconstruct the building since it is in such poor shape. Please advise the Board of your decision. Yours truly, Elaine H. Snowden Town Clerk gr Fig RUM 17" 1� 11RISM1911FIVIII I R11's, �� 11111171! 1 Town of Wappinger Recreation Commission and Town Board c/o Mary Schmalz 7 Edge Hill Manor Wappingers Falls, New York 12590 Dear Commissioners and Board Members, FUllij 1j, SNOWDEN On October 3, 1980, 1 inspected the barn adjacent to the Town tennis courts on Montfort Road at Pye Lane. The barn appears to have been built about 1950 for dairy use on the ground floor with a hay loft above, milk room near one end and a separate silo with enclosed access. The construction is concrete slab on grade with concrete block walls, steel framed windows, a wooden loft floor and a wood framed arched roof covered with galvanized steel roofing. There are no cracks visible in the block walls, indicating that the fobt ings have stood the test of time very well and that the masonry work is in sound condition. A few pieces of the galvanized sheet metal roofing have worked loose and been blown off. These should be replaced. The larger portion of the roof is in good condition, but some repairs are necessary in one of the valleys where the milk room joins the barn, and the edges of the entire roof need attention and perhaps gutters to control runoff. The ground floor space has been converted from dairy use to general storage, including filling in most of the troughs and drops. While the ceiling joists are quite low (about 716"), the space lends itself to many uses. The east end has been altered to admit large, vehicles by cutting out a portion of the loft floor; some repairs may be necessary here. Additional alterations that have occurred include the erection of a cross -partition and compartmentalization for plumbing fixtures near the west end, together with some insulating of the walls with fiberglas batts. Styrofoam and sheetrock would make a neater and more efficient realteration of the walls if it is proposed to heat the building or a portion of it. The Fiberglas could be reserved for ceiling insulation. Insulation of the floor slab at the edges is also recommended. Small trees have begun to grow in several places at the uutside edge of the concrete slab, they should be removed before their root systems heave the masonry. The barn is a small classic dairy building, constructed of modern inexpensive materials for efficiency of its original purpose and it will if kept intact, eventually achieve landmark status. It would make an admirable recreation center because of its manageable size (about 70 feet long) and especially because of its location. Very sincerely yours, 27 October 1.080