1989-04-25ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
APRIL 25, 1989
AGENDA
NEW BUSINESS:
In
TOWN HALL
20 MIDDLEBUSH ROAD
WAPP. FALLS. NY 12590
1. Appeal #1061 at the request of Donald seeking a Variance of
Article IV Section 421, of the Town of Wappinger, Zoning Ordinance,
where 20 foot sides are required and the applicant is requesting a 6"
foot variance on property located on 58 Edge Hill Drive and being
Parcel #6358-03-056213.
ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING:
1. APPEAL # 1060 AT THE REQUEST OF� SEEKING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE HONEYTREE DAY CARE CENTER UNDER ARTICLE IV
SECTION 440 OF THE TOWN OF WAPPINGER ZONING ORDINANCE ON PROPERTY
LOCATED ON OLD ROUTE #9 AND BEING PARCEL #6157-02-580777
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APRIL 25, 1969
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TOWN HALL
20 MIDDLEBUSH ROAD
WAPPINGER FALLS, NY
The regular meeting of the Town of Wappinger Zoning Board was held on
Tuesday, April 26, 1939, at the Town Hall, Middlebush Road, Wappinger
Falls, NY beginning at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mr. Brooker (Chairman)
Mr. Hirkala
Mrs. Roe
OTHERS PRESENT:
Mr. Lehigh
Mr. Tompkins
Lia Scianna, Zoning Board Secretary
Herbert Levenson, Zoning Administrator,
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The meeting was called to order, at 7:30p.m., Mr. Brooker explained how
the meeting would be conducted.
1. APPEAL #1061 AT THE REQUEST OF DONALD WEED, SEEKING A VARIANCE OF
ARTICLE IV SECTION 421, OF THE TOWN OF WAPPINGER ZONING ORDINANCE, WHERE
0 FOOT SIDES ARE REQUIRED AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A 6" FOOT
VARIANCE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON 58 EDGE HILL DRIVE AND BEING PARCEL
#6358-03-056213.
Mr. Weed was present.
Mr. Weed: My name is Donald Weed, and what I like to do is show....
(Pointing to his map) this is the house, the black is the house, 24x42
'foot deck has a slide door and it has a little landing because of the
door, in the back, the house was built in the late 60's and that according
to the record is approved, even though this is 'a 20 feet to the next
property•1ine, and this is 6 foot, the records show that this is
approved, and I do have a building permit to rebuild.
Mrs. Roe: That was just land.
Mr. Weed: Yes, that's all it was, that's what I have approved the
building now.
Mr. Tompkins: The landing isn't there now.
Mr. Weed: The only way I can get out of that door, is with a landing
is with a landing, now what I want to do is replacing this deck......
Mr. Brooker: Is that an existing deck now?
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Mr. Weed: Yes, and this is what I 'd like to do, the blue is why I'am
here, I'd like to be able to go out this door and walk around and
connect here. it's a relatively low deck, there_ a kichen here, and
if I had to put the stair there,I would have to go down the steps, cross
the ground, and up on the deck, there would be no openings there.
Mr. Levenson: There are no openings to the rear, of the deck?
Mr. Weed: There are no openings right now.
Mrs. Roe: No alindowns?
Mr. Weed: There are windows.
Mr. Hirkala: How do you get access to the deck.
Mr. Weed: I go down here and up, I made the connection twenty years ago.
Mr. Levenson: Wha was the connection, I see the steps in there.
Mr. Weed: There was a deck very similiar to this connected twenty years
ago, the record show that this was approved however, this is how it
was.
kior. Levenson: Another, words what you are looking for is a variance of 6
feet of the blue area.
Mr. Weed: Yes on the blue area, what I want to do is extend this plat
form down so I could get_ the deck back there.
Mr. Levenson: The red area is where it says door, that on the original
i\ -Ir,. Weed. Ye: it is, this is an original C.0.
Mr. Hirkala: There was a C-0. granted on it without a variance.
Mrs. Roe: Twenty year ago, propbably.
Mr. Lehigh: Your not going to have any access from the house out of the
deck.
Mr. Weed: I can knock a door, through there.......
Mr. Hirkala: What rooms are there.
Mr. Weed: There's a kitchen, dining room, living room, and this is a
split level so you can go upstairs.
.ir. Hirkala: How far off the ground is the landing -and the deck.
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tvir. . Weed: This is about 4 feet.
Mr. Hirkala: And the deck is the same height.
Mr. Weed: Well it slopes down probably 7, 8 feet.
Mr,. Levenson: The land goes down.
Mr. Hirkala: The dining room is in the back.
Mr. Weed: Yea it is.
Mr, . Hirkala: And there 1-s no sliding doors in the dining room.
Mr. Weed: No sir.
Mr. Hirkala: Do you ever, plan a slideing door in the dining room.
Mr. Weed: I'd like too.
Mr. Hirkala: 6o what will happen is you have a sliding door in the
dining room and......
`r. Weed: This is a very small room and its not a passage way, I have
o bring hot food from the kitchen through the dining room.
Mr. Tompkins: Wouldn't it seem better, than walking outside in the rain.
Mr. Weed: Well, the deck isnt covered.
mr. Lehigh: Than you wouldnt be going out there at all?
Mr. Weed: Not in the rain.
Mr. Lehigh: You don't have any plans to cover.
Mr. Weed: No, not at this time, I might put an umbrella through a small
awning. Its not instructed. I dont plan to cover, it at all.
Mr. Levenson: Well, I would recommend that if the variance is granted
that there would be no cover allowed, under, the consent of the board.
Mr. Hirkala: Is 6 foot the minimimum you could make it. Could you get
away with 4 feet.
Mr. Weed: I could, I just though 6 feet was reasonable, that's what was
approved here so I said why not just extend it back, could I yes I can,
but I think it would be a much better deck.
`r. Lehigh: The reason you got your, six foot is because your, door opens-.
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Mr. Weed: It's a big door, and it opens up, I made the steps go down
more to the back.
Mr, . Tompkins: 20x30 is the size of your deck.
Mr. Deed: The deck is 42x24.
Mr. Hirkala: Cao you have a swimming pool in the back yard.
Mr. Weed: No, I don't have anythings, its wooded with some trees.
It goes back 108 feet.
Mr. Brooker: How close is your, next door neighbor, on that side
Mr. Weed: Well on this side Jim Hamilton must be over 30 -35 feet from
my property.
Mr. Brooker: I'm going to disqualified myself, I know Mr. Weed person-
ally.
Mr. Hirkala: Is there any reason for the set of stairs there.
Mr. Weed: just as a safety driveway is here and the most of the traffic
is here. I walk around and I wanted this access to come out and down
�bwhere to get into the house without going through the front door. This
house is very poorly constructed to use the outside, to use the outside
you wuld have to go down a set of stairs to the bottom and out the sli-
ding glass doors and the quality of light from the house is nothing with-
out a deck you can walk on out too.
Mrs. Roe: And to move the sliding glass door from underneath the porch
tack upstairs.....
Mr. Weed: That's ,a little expensive, and you would have to close up the
house, I went that access outside incase of a fire.
Mr. Brooker: Any other, comment from the board.
Pkir. Tompkins: moved to close the public hearing.
Mrs. Roe: Seconded the motion.
Mr. Lehigh: I make a motion since he's only extending an existing porch
that the variance be granted, and that it remains covered and enclose.
Mr. Tompkins: Seconded the motion.
Mr. Tompkins: aye Mr. Lehigh: aye
Mr. Hirkala: .aye Mr. Brooker: nay
Mrs. Roe: aye
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ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING:
1. APPEAL #1060 AT THE REQUEST OF JEFFREY J. STRANG SEEKING A SPECIAL
USE PERMIT TO OPERATE HONEYTREE DAY CARE CENTER UNDR ARTICLE IV SECTION.
440 OF THE TOWN OF WAPPINGER ZONING ORDINANCE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON
OLD ROUTE #9 AND BEING PARCEL #6157-02-580777.
Mr. Brooke -r: This is the appeal we sent back to the Planning Board.
Mr. Levenson: The Planning Board accepted the site plan subject to
receiving a special use permit from the ZBA.
Mr. Hi rk.al.a: what we have to do is make a determination agreement on
what the Special Use Permit and with the restricted agreement we want to
put on the operation.
Mr. Tompkins: It still has to go back to the Planning Board for, Site
Plan approval.
Mr. Levenson: It scheduled for, May 8, 1989, you remember the last meet-
ing of the ZBA from Mr. Hirkala one of the problems was thee lack of
expansion.
k1r. Brooker: Has the correction been made.
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Mr. Levenson: Yes.
Mr. Hirkala: The problem I had is that one of the buildings was not in
the enclosed area, and the children would be in the enclosed area at the
same time.
Ms. Dabler: The revision has been made on that map, .and I was told that
,it didn't have to be put on the map. It would becheck as built when done.
Mr. Hirkala: I'll just cut my contribution to the site Plan conditions
that would be no children at any time of day be outside the fenced
enclosure unless they are being picked up or, dropped off, and also if
there's ,any conflict of picking up and delivering the children such as
acceive jams, because of the fact of parking spaces, if there's any
conflict observe in the future that there would come back for a revision.
Also, the use of the other, buildings, the other building would be a one
building were you are using a garage now, :storage of the boat, those
would just be storage related to the Day Care Center.
Mr. Brooker: subject to the inspection of the Fire Inspector.
Mr. Hirkala: What is the Zoning Administrtor• position to have a Zoning
Administrator Inspection.
Mr. Levenson: Annual Inspection also fire insoections. A fire inspec-
tion at the discretion of the Fire Inspector will have it scheduled in
the computer, as an annu.-B1 inspection.
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Mr. Strang: That is New York State requires that to be a part of my
1iBence anyway.
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Mr. Levenson: tell a -P fire inspector, now is authorized Fire Inspector,
his now on the list, and then in July I'll be an authorized Fire Inspec-
tor also.
Mr. Lehigh: If nobody else has any comments, I move to close the public
hearing.
Mrs. Roe: Seconded the motion.
Mr. Tompkins: Herb, could you read back the -conditions.
Mr. Levenson: The fence enclosure so the children are not outside the
building except for, picking up and delivering the children. Also,
buildings A & B are to remain as storage use only.
Mr. Hirkala: Storage related to the Day Care Center.
Ms. Dabler: Now that's if in ten years, Mr. Strang might want to come
back and rebuild those building, he would then have to come back for, a
special use permit.
r. Hirkala: If you require for, a revision the same thing would hold
through for a site plan. If the site plan specifies those buildings
of storage in three years from now, they are used for, another purpose
its a violation.
Mr. Tompkins: Its a two story frame, whats its going to be on the sec-
ond floor.
tor. Strang: The second floor, has three bedrooms upstairs and their, is
going to be an office for, teacher use only, no children is allowed
upstairs.
Mr. Hirkala: There's nobody living on the premises.
Mr. Strang: Thats actually part of the notes I rember• reading it, the
second floor will not have residentant or, tentants nor the use of class-
room space, only use for storage.
Mrs. Roe: Does a place like that automatically have a sprinkler system.
Mr. Brooker: It's not required.
Mr. Strang: If you decide to put people up stairs, then it is required.
Mr. Hirkala: No ingress or, egress problems, that's all taking care of in
he site plan, the chain leaf fence is taking care of.