1998-01-27O
AGENDA
Town of Wappinger Zoning Board
MEETING DATE: January 27, 1998
TIME -- 7:30 PM
Approval of January 13, 1998, minutes.
ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING
Town Hall
20 Middlebush Road
Wappingers Falls, NY
Appeal No. 1256 - The Appellant, Greer Nine Really Corp., seeks variances of Article IV,
Section 410.12.6.1.4:
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Whereas, one hundred (100) square foot signage is permitted on the front of the building, the
Appellant proposes 110.41 square feet, thus a 10.41 square foot sign variance is requested on the
front of the building, and;
Whereas, fifty (50) square foot signage is permitted on the side of the building, and the
Appellant proposes 64 square feet, thus a 14 square foot sign variance is requested on the side of
the building on property located at 1420 Route 9 and is identified as Tax Grid No. 19-6157-02-
585606-00 in the Town of Wappinger. The Zoning Board of Appeal declared itself Lead Agency
on November 25, 1997.
DISCUSSION
Greer Nine Realty Corp. - To discuss Appeal No. 1257 requesting a sign variance to exceed
100 square feet on the front of the building and half that on the side. The property is located at
1420 Route 9 in the Town of Wappinger.
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Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals Town Hall
January 27, 1998 20 Middlebush Road
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Members Present
Mr. Prager: Chairman Mr. Lehigh: Vice Chairman
Mr. Fanuele: Member Mr. diPierno: Member
Mr. Warren: Member
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Others Present APPROVED
Mr. Don Close, Zoning Administrator° j
Mrs. Nguyen, Secretary to the Zoning Board
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January 13, 1998
Greer Nine Realty Corp. Appeal No. 1256
Greer Nine Realty Corp. Appeal No. 1257
Mr. Lehigh made a motion to approve the January 13, 1998, minutes.
Mr. Fanuele seconded the motion.
Vote: All present voted aye. Mr. diPierno abstained since he was not present for that meeting.
ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING
Appeal No. 1256 - The Appellant, Greer Nine Realty Corp., seeks variances of Article IV,
Section 410.12.6.1.4:
Whereas, one hundred (100) square foot signage is permitted on the front of the building, the
Appellant proposes 110.41 square feet, thus a 10.41 square foot sign variance is requested on the
front of the building, and;
Whereas, fifty (50) square foot signage is permitted on the side of the building, and the
Appellant proposes 64 square feet, thus a 14 square foot sign variance is requested on the side of
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*MW the building on property located at 1420 Route 9 and is identified as Tax Grid No. 19-6157-02-
585606-00 in the Town of Wappinger. The Zoning Board of Appeal declared itself Lead Agency
on November 25, 1997.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel was present.
Mr. Prager explained Mrs. Greer-Schunzel withdrew Appeal No. 1256 in a letter dated January
14, 1998.
DISCUSSION
Greer Nine Realtyoo. - To discuss Appeal No.1257 requesting a sign variance to exceed
100 square feet on the front of the building and half that on the side. The property is located at
1420 Route 9 in the Town of Wappinger.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel was present.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel explained she withdrew Appeal No. 1256 because she realized she had to
measure the complete sign, not each letter separately. After finding that out, she had to submit a
new application (Appeal No. 1257) because the total signage she was asking for was more than
what the legal notice stated. She discussed the drawing that she submitted showing the proposed
signage. She stated she kept the Subaru sign that faces Route 9, but she took off the Greer
Toyota, LTD sign that used to be on the building. She added a Toyota and Greer sign on the
front of the building facing Route 9 and she added, facing Old Hopewell Road, a Toyota and
Subaru sign, without logos because she already met the manufacturers guidelines. She proposed
152 square feet of signage on the Route 9 side, whereas 100 square feet is allowed. Previously,
she had 145 square feet of signage.
Mr. Lehigh asked if she has a building permit to redo the facade on the building.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel said she was told she didn't need one since she was not building out.
Mr. Close said that would be the Building Inspectors call. He said anything structural requires a
building permit.
Mr. Prager asked Mr. Close to check with the Building Inspector to find out if a building permit
is required.
Mr. Lehigh stated if she doesn't have a building permit for the facade, she would have to have
one before the Board could have a public hearing.
Mr. diPierno asked, what is the height and width of the front facia.
`AW Mrs. Greer-Schunzel estimated it to be 6 feet high and 60 feet wide. She stated on the side of the
building facing Old Hopewell Road, she never had any signage on the facia. She used to have a
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�- Toyota and Subaru sign in the window under the facia, but it fell apart. She proposed 67 square
feet of signage on the Old Hopewell side. Fifty square feet is allowed.
Mr. Lehigh asked about signage on Old Route 9.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel said the only signage she has there is an illuminated parts & service sign
and an inspection sign. She said she has no name recognition on that side of the road.
Mr. Fanuele asked about the signage on Old Hopewell Road.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel explained she proposed 67 square feet of signage. She said it would end up
67 sq. ft. or smaller. She will use a different sign company from Plasti Line because Plasti Line
can not make the sign without the logo. She is not sure what the actual height and width of the
signs will be, but the two signs will be exactly the same size and they will be under 67 sq. ft.
Unfortunately, the signs on Old Hopewell Road will be smaller than the signs on Route 9. In
order to have all the signs the same size, she would have to ask for a much larger variance.
Mr. Prager asked what the 145 square feet of existing signage consisted of.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel stated it consisted of Greer Toyota, LTD, and the old Subaru sign.
Mr. Prager asked if she had a variance for those signs.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel said the signs were always on the building since she can remember. Subaru
came along in 1978, and they normally obtain their own approval for their signs.
Mr. Prager asked Mrs. Greer-Schunzel for the letter from Greer mandating a certain size sign.
Mrs. Greer-Schunzel stated she didn't bring the letter with her. She said she would give it to
Linda before the public hearing. The letter basically said Toyota mandates dealers to put certain
signage up assuming the Towns allow it.
Mr. Lehigh suggested Mrs. Greer-Schunzel should notify the Building Department to find out if
a building permit was ever obtained for the facia. If not, she should get one as soon as possible.
Mr. Prager suggested setting the public hearing pending if Mrs. Greer-Schunzel does not need a
permit. A public hearing was set for February 10'h.
Mr. Warren made a motion for the ZBA to be the Lead Agency.
Mr. diPierno seconded the motion.
Vote: All present voted aye.
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Mr. Lehigh made a motion to close the meeting.
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Mr. diPierno seconded the motion.
Vote: All present voted aye.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:50 PM.
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Respectfully submitted,
Linda Nguyen, Secretary
Zoning Board of Appeals
Town of Wappinger