1999-09-14MINUTIFS
APPROVED
SEP 2 8 1999
Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals
September 14,1999
Summarized Minutes
Members Present:
Others Present:
Adjourned Public Hearing
Discussions
Adjourned Public Hearing
Mr. Prager
Mr. Lehigh
Mr. Fanuele
Mr. Roberts
Mr. Liebermann
Ms. DiPaola
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MINUTES
Chairman Mr. diPierno Member
Vice Chairman Mr. Warren Member
Member
Attorney to the Town
Acting Zoning Administer
Secretary to Zoning Board of Appeals
Summarized
Alpine Company of Poughkeepsie
Andrea Fabucci
Thomas & Elena Tait
Paul & Brigitte Juliano Jr.
Sept.28,1999 will decide
Site Inspection Sept. 22,1999
Public Hearing Oct. 12,1999
Site Inspection Sept. 22,1999
Public Hearing Oct. 22,1999
Site Inspection Sept. 22,1999
Public Hearing Oct. 12,1999
An adjourned public hearing will be conducted by the Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals on the
appeal of the Alpine Company of Poughkeepsie affecting lands at Route 9 and constituting a portion of tax
parcel no. 6157-02-707773, said appeal requesting an interpretation (Interpretation Application No. 99-7021)
that section 330 of the Zoning Law does not require that a common lot divided by a zoning district line must be
treated as two separate lots for the purpose of determining conformance with the bulk resolutions of the Zoning
Law. A further adjourned public hearing will be conducted on the application of Alpine Company of
Poughkeepsie for alternative relief of variance (Variance Application No. 99-7022) from section 330 of the
Zoning Board of Appeals has declared itself lead agency on July 13,1999, however the Zoning Board of
Appeals has not made determination of significance pursuant to Article VIII of the Environmental Conservation
Law and the related Title 6 part 617 N.Y.C.R.R. (commonly known as SEQRA), and local law number 6 of the
year 1992, and the Zoning Board of Appeals hereby reserves its right to make such determination after the
conclusion of the adjourned public hearing stated above.
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Mr. Prager: We do not have the minutes from August 10,1999 and the minutes from August 24,1999 have
spelling and grammar mistakes. I will have to hold my decision for tonight, the decision will have to be made at
the next meeting of September 28,1999. We did not do a negative check on the variance, the interpretation does
not need one.
Mr. Lehigh: Made a motion for a negative check.
Mr. diPierno: Seconds the motion.
All present voted aye.
Mr. Prager: We did have a Site Inspection on September 11,1999 at 9:00 a.m. Sorry that we have to keep
postponing it, but without the proper information we can not do anything.
Mr. Kellogg: Ok thank you.
DISCUSSION
Andrea Fabucci To discuss Interpretation Application No. 99-7029 regarding 17 New Hackensack Road.
Wants existing shed to remain where it is.
Ms. Fabucci: I rent the house that I live in. It is a two family house. I have lived there for 11 years, so I
decided to put a shed up on the side of the house, the shed has been there for 3 years. I didn't know that you
needed a building permit. The landlord never told me anything. There is also a fence on the property that
divides myself and the neighbors property. I thought the fence meant that, that was the property line. I was
wrong. I found out that where I rent I have the side of the house where the shed is and the front of the property.
The lady that rents downstairs has the property in the back and the other side of the house. That was the lease
agreement from Mr. Redl. That is why I am asking for a variance.
Mr. Prager: The shed has been there for 3 years and you have lived there for 11 years?
Ms. Fabucci: Yes.
Mr. Lehigh: Is this a legal two family home?
Ms. Fabucci: It is listed a two family home on my paper work.
Mr. Prager: Herb Redl is the owner of the house?
Ms. Fabucci: Right.
Mr. Fanuele: I think Mr. Redl should be here because he owns the property.
Ms. Fabucci: I have a letter from Herb Redl.
Mr. Prager: Did you purchase the shed?
Ms. Fabucci: Yes.
Mr. Prager: Who installed the shed?
Ms. Fabucci: My boyfriend installed the shed. Mr. Redl didn't know that I had the shed and he did not care
until this problem came up.
Mr. Liebermann: The reason that it was brought to our attention, the lady that is living next to them was
complaining about the shed being on her property line. That was the original complaint.
Mr. Prager: I see the letter to Mrs. Derosa
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Mr. Liebermann: That was answering her complaint. Don Vasella said that she didn't meet the setbacks, then
when they took the hedge down they realized they didn't have the proper setbacks.
Mr. Prager: I have a letter to Mrs. Derosa form Don Corsell. I also have one from Don Close to Mr.
Liebermann.
Mr. Liebermann: He submitted a first plan, and the plan showed the shed met the setbacks. Then they realized
that when they took down the hedges that it didn't meet the setbacks.
Mr. Lehigh: Which plot plan is right? The one that shows the side of the house, or the one that shows the rear
of the house?
Ms. Fabucci: The one that is shown on the side of the house.
Mr. Prager: Are you 17 or 19 New Hackensack Road?
Ms. Fabucci: I am 19 for 11 years and I came here and I am 17.
Mr. Liebermann: I think with the 911 and everything it has been changed a couple of times.
Ms. Fabbucci: I live right next to Fun Central.
Mr. Liebermann: It's possibly a two family house, I will check that out for you.
Mr. Prager: Is the shed movable?
Ms. Fabucci: No it is not, I have no other place to put it.
Mr. Prager: What do you store in the shed?
Ms. Fabucci: A lot of stuff. When I went to the lady next door, she was really mad about the bushes, that is
how this problem came about. I had no idea that those were her bushes. She said then I want the shed taken
down.
Mr. Prager: We are going to have to have a site inspection. September 22,1999 at 6:00 p.m. will be the site
inspection.
Mr. Warren Made a motion to be Lead Agency.
Mr. diPierno seconds the motion.
All present voted aye.
Mr. Prager: Public Hearing October 12,1999.
Thomas & Elena Tait To discuss Interpretation Application No. 99-7028 regarding 5 Alpert Drive seeking to
put a inground pool in and to fit it around a large rock.
Mr. Tait: We moved into a house in November of 1998. We took down the above ground pool because the
pool was not replaceable and we wanted to put a inground pool in the place of the other one. We had the
builder come over and apply for the building permit. We were told that we can not build 10 feet from the line,
you have to be 20 feet from the line. We took down some landscaping that was put in years ago. The only
thing that is left are rocks, they are not decorative boulders placed there, the rocks actually come out of the
ground. This is the only place that the pool can be put. We are asking for a variance of 10 feet. I stated how it
would be different then a structure. I have spoken to someone about putting up a fence and I was told that the
decorative part had to face the neighbors. The pool is going to go where the old fence was and then the new
fence will go up. It will be 8 feet high.
Mr. Prager: We are going to have a Site Inspection. September 22,1999 at 6:30 p.m. Can you mark out
around the property to let me know where the pool will be. Public Hearing October 12,1999
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Paul & Brigitte Juliano Jr. To discuss Interpretation Application No. 99-7030 regarding 33 Pye Lane. Want
the existing shed to remain where it is.
Mr. Juliano: I need a variance of 7 feet from the property line. The setback needs to be 10 feet from the
abutting property. I bought the house in May of 1990, there was an existing shed. It has been there since I have
been living there. I refinance my mortgage and now I do not have a CO and now I also have a problem.
Mr. Prager: When did you buy the home?
Mr. Juliann: I bought it in May of 1990.
Mr. Prager: The shed was part of the property then?
Mr. Juliann: Yes it was.
Mr. Liebermann: Back in 1990 they did CO title searches. Back then Tim Classy was building inspector. All
we did then was searches from the file open of the grid number no violation or permit and then we would give
them no violation letters. The state came down and said you have to send violation letters out and the attorney
agreed. You better go out and do a ride by inspection and make sure that there is nothing there that does not
have a permit. That is how the shed got picked up.
r.. Mr. Prager: I see a letter, there is no date on the letter. What is this letter regarding?
Mr. Juliano: That is a estimate. The shed is on a 6 inch slab now.
Mr. Lehigh: It's not suppose to be on a slab.
Mr. Juliano: If I was to move the shed, then it would be in the middle of the property. My main problem with
this that I am being victimized over this.
Mr. Prager: That is why we are here. Site Inspection September 22,1999 at 7:00 p.m. Public Hearing
October 12,1999.
Mr. Warren made a motion to be Lead Agency.
Mr. diPiemo seconds the motion
All present voted aye
Mr. Lehigh made a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Mr. Warren seconds the motion
Meeting Adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Respectfully Yours,
Christina DiPaola
Secretary to the Zoning Board of Appeals