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AGENDA
Town of Wappinger Zoning Board
MEETING DATE: October 14, 1997
TIME -- 7:30 PM
Approval of September 9, 1997, minutes.
PUBLIC HEARING
Town Hall
20 Middlebush Road
Wappingers Falls, NY
Appeal No. 1248 - At the request of Joseph & Jill DiPalma, who are seeking an area variance
of Article IV, Section 420.3 - Schedule of Dimensional Regulations - whereas a 40 -foot rear yard
setback is required for an accessory building over 200 sq. ft. in an R-20 zone and the appellants'
are proposing to erect a 12' X 24' swage shed 12 feet from the rear property line, thus a 28 -foot
rear yard variance is required for property located at 1 Doyle Drive and is identified as Tax Grid
No. 6257-04-854483-00 in the Town of Wappinger.
The Zoning Board of Appeals declared itself Lead Agency for this project on September 9, 1997.
DISCUSSIONS
1. Goodwill Industries - To discuss Appeal No. 1249 requesting 180 square foot sign variance
for property located at 1271 Route 9 in the Town of Wappinger. (Former Channel Store)
2. Kenneth J. Catale - To discuss Appeal No. 1250 requesting a 14 foot side yard variance to
construct a 26' X 26' detached garage on property located at 48 Top O' Hill Road in the
Town of Wappinger.
3. Stephen & Melissa Fischer - To discuss Appeal No. 1251 requesting a 5 foot side yard
variance to construct a 6' X 12' bicycle storage shed on property located at 257 Myers
Corners Road in the Town of Wappinger.
MINUTES
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October 14,1997
Minutes
Members Present
Mr. Prager: Chairman
Mr. diPierno: Member
Members Absent
Mr. Lehigh: Vice Chairman
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Mr. Fanuele: Member
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Mrs. Nguyen, Secretary to the Zoning Board
Mr. Prager: I would like to call the Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals to
Call please.
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Mr. Fanuele: Here. Mr. Lehigh: Absent.
Mr. Prager: Here.
Vote: All present except Mr. Lehigh.
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Mr. Fanuele: I make a motion to approve them.
Mr. Warren: I'll Second.
Vote: All present voted aye.
Mr. Prager: The next item of business on tonight's agenda is the public hearing on Am
1248 - At the request of Joseph &Jill DiPalma, who are seeking an area variance of,
Section 420.3 - Schedule of Dimensional Regulations - whereas a 40 -foot rear yard sett
required for an accessory building over RtheOzone and rear propertyellne, thappellusta'2t
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yard variance is required for property located at 1 Doyle Drive and is identified as Tax Grid No.
6257-04-854483-00 in the Town of Wappinger. Linda, are all the mailings in order?
Mrs. Nguyen: Yes, we re -notified them.
Mr. Prager: Mr. DiPalma, I have to apologize for putting this meeting off for the last couple of
weeks because of different things that have happened. I would like to have a motion to open the
public hearing.
Mr. Fanuele: So moved.
Mr. diPierno: Second.
Vote: All present voted aye.
Mr. DiPalma: I am Joseph A. DiPalma. I need a 12' X 24' storage shed. It is to be located on
the right side of my house. So, I can put all of my lawn furniture and my yard equipment that is
currently under my porch into the shed in an effort to clear everything out that is underneath my
porch. In the winter, I would also like to take my barbecue and all of my lawn furniture that is
on my existing deck and store that for the winter.
Mr. Prager: As you know, we did have a site inspection on September 13t". We were out there.
%MW I believe Mr. diPierno you went out on your own. We had noticed obviously there is storage
under the rear deck there. Is there any possibility of closing that in and making that a storage
area?
Mr. DiPalma: I had thought about that, but by the time I put a roof, something to keep the water
out, and put in an adequate slope, it will probably only be about 3 feet high. That was my
concern.
Mr. Prager: How about now, we also noticed you have another shed in the back, if you were to
get a larger shed and put it in that area.
Mr. DiPalma: I was going to keep that shed up also.
Mr. Prager: I was just saying, if you could do away with that shed but get a larger shed, then you
should be able to put everything in that shed.
Mr. DiPalma: I would still have the problem with the same setback.
Mr. Prager: If you can keep it under 200 square feet.
Mr. DiPalma: If I keep it under 200 square feet, can I put it right where I want to put this shed?
,%W Mr. Prager: You can do it if you have enough room that you wouldn't need a variance. I am not
sure if you would or not. What I was talking about was basically taking the wooden shed and
replacing it with a larger shed. Then it is out of the way and not seen. One of my concerns, I
will be perfectly frank with you, is that when you build this large shed that you are talking about.
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101- even though it is on the side of your property, it is still overlooking the property that is next door
to it. It is going to be quite high. If you look at it from their property, even though the person
who lives there now might be fine with it, I am look towards the future. That is basically one of
my main problems right there. One of the other things I don't like about it is basically the
substantial amount of the variance. I have it calculated to be a 70% variance, which is extremely
high. That is my feelings. We will see how the rest of the Board feels when it comes time to
vote. I just want you to know exactly where I stand right now.
Mr. Fanuele: The shed you want to put in is how big, 288? Can you get by with a 200 square
foot shed?
Mr. DiPalma: Sure I could. The extra room would be nice. If it is going to create a problem, I
have no problem going down in size.
Mr. Fanuele: Of the square footage?
Mr. DiPalma: Yes, I figured that is what I would need to be comfortable with all of my stuff.
would have room to walk in and get what I need without having to rearrange stuff.
Mr. Fanuele: You would just make the shed shorter?
Mr. DiPalma: Or narrower and shorter.
Mr. Prager: I believe all you would need is 10 feet if it is less than 200.
Mr. Fanuele: He already has that. The question here is, if we don't give you a variance here for
288, you can put a 200 square foot shed in there. Either way we get a shed located in that spot.
Mr. DiPalma: Well, I am not going to offend my neighbors.
Mr. Prager: Right, and you understand how we feel, or at least I feel that your neighbor who
lives there now might be all for it, but if they ever sell the property, it is one of those things that
we have to worry about. If you did it under 200 square feet, you would not need a variance. Am
I correct Don?
Mr. Close: Right.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyone who would like to speak for or against this variance? Please state
your name.
Mr. Tamms: I am Dieter Tamms. I live a 3 Doyle Drive, right next door to Joe.
Mr. Prager: Are you the property that is below it?
Mr. Tamms: No, I am the property that is adjoining. (Shows sketch) I would like to have it
clarified first - the location of the shed.
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Mr. Tamms: My concern would be that - if it can be done, place a restriction that the shed can
never be used for any commercial use, tow trucks, any kind of trucks, commercial vehicles, auto
repair. I have seen it on occasion in the development where people have done that type of work.
It ruins the neighborhood obviously.
Mr. Prager: Yes, then again that would be one of the things that definitely... It is a residential
area.
Mr. Tamms: I would like him to have what he needs to be happy and enjoy his property.
Obviously for him to store his equipment. Go right a head. Now of course is the second concern
that I had was the dimension in relation to the size of the house. The house I believe is 20' X
40'. The shed is 50% of the size of the house. I see his need so I do not want to throw curb balls
so that he would not be able to have that, but I need to protect my interest. I am hoping you can
restrict it so it can never be used for commercial purposes.
Mr. DiPalma: That would never happen.
Mr. Prager: We can definitely mention that. Is there anybody else here that would like to speak
for or against this appeal?
Mr. Lee: We live below.
Mr. Prager: Your name?
Mr. Lee: James Lee - 42 Carroll Drive.
Mr. Prager: So you're the house that is right next door.
Mr. Lee: He explained it to us, you know what he was building. I don't have any problem with
it. He said he was going to side it.
Mr. Prager: We have a picture of it here of the type. Did you see the type that it is going to be?
I have nothing against the shed. It has nothing to do with that. Primarily, I am worried that if
you ever sold that property, the next person that comes in there will see a shed that is that close
and that is just not good as far as I am concerned.
Mr. Lee: We don't have a problem with it.
Mr. Prager: Is there anybody else who would like to speak for or against this appeal? Anybody
else on the Board have any other questions?
Mr. Fanuele: I feel that if he is going to put up a 200 square foot shed, and with the proper
landscaping around it, 288 doesn't make that much difference to me and the neighbors are happy
or not complaining that he is putting the shed up. With the proper landscaping it will soften it.
Did you mention how high the shed will be?
Mr. DiPalma: It will be a barn style roof.
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Mr. Fanuele: Do you know how high this is from the center?
Mr. DiPalma: I am not really sure.
Mr. Close: It had a gable roof on it, didn't Joe?
Mr. DiPalma: Yes, like a barn style.
Mr. Fanuele: With the proper landscaping, I don't ... You're going to get a shed there anyway,
so either way you look at it there will be a shed there. If he puts it there without a variance, he
doesn't have to landscape it. If he puts it there with a variance, he has to landscape it because
that will be a condition.
Mr. Prager: Anybody else have anything to say? I would just like to log in some evidence that
we have. A copy of the map of the survey, the plot plan showing the location of the proposed
shed, a copy of the brochure from Hudson Valley Storage Shed in Highland, NY. The
Findings of Facts, the appellants' property in its entirety falls into the R-20 district classification.
It is located at 1 Doyle Drive in the Town of Wappinger. The appellants have submitted a map
survey of the property and a plot plan sketch showing the location of the proposed shed. The
appellants' have submitted a copy of the brochure from Hudson Valley Storage Shed showing
the type of barn shed that they would like to build on their property. The appellants' are seeking
a variance of Article IV, Section 420.3 - Schedule of Dimensional Regulations - a 40 -foot rear
yard setback is required for an accessory building over 200 sq. ft. in an R-20 zone and the
appellants' are proposing to erect a 12' X 24' storage shed 12 feet from the rear property line,
thus a 28 -foot rear yard variance is required for property located at 1 Doyle Drive and is
identified as Tax Grid No. 19-6257-04-854483-00 in the Town of Wappinger. A site inspection
was held on September 13, 1997, by the ZBA Board. Can I have a motion to close the public
hearing?
Mr. diPierno: So moved.
Mr. Warren: Second.
Vote: All present voted aye.
Mr. Prager: I would like to make a motion to deny the variance for the following reasons. No. 1,
will the requested variance de detrimental to nearby properties? I feel it will be even though the
building will be built on the appellants' side yard. It will overlook their neighbors front yard at a
substantial height. No. 2, an undesirable change will occur to the character of the neighborhood
since there are no other properties in this area with this type of substantial setback variance. No.
3, there are other alternative methods to achieve the benefit sought by the applicants. Another
shed could be placed in that area at a maximum square footage area of up to 200 square feet or
closing in under the porch. Even though that does not seem to be the most practical way to go.
No. 4, the requested variance is very substantial. It is a 28 foot variance and I have that coming
up as a 70% variance, which is very substantial. I feel that giving that it is a variance of that size
it would be really, to an extent, changing the Zoning Law. The variance will not cause any
adverse effects to the physical or environmental conditions of the neighborhood. If it was built,
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it would be self-created - the difficulty. Those are the reasons that I would like to make the
motion. Can I have a second?
Mr. diPiemo: Second.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Warren: Aye. Mr. diPierno: Aye.
Mr. Fanuele: Nay. Mr. Lehigh: Absent.
Mr. Prager: Aye.
Vote: All present, except Mr. Fanuele, was in favor of denying the variance.
Mr. Prager: A motion has been passed to deny the variance and it will be filed in five days.
DISCUSSION - of Building Dept. procedure.
Mr. Prager: The next item of business on tonight's agenda is a discussion of Appeal No. 1249 -
Goodwill Industries. They are requesting 180 square foot sign variance for property located at
1271 Route 9 in the Town of Wappinger. (Former Channel Store) Can I ask who is here to speak
about this variance?
Mr. Walsh: My name is Tom Walsh.
Mr. Prager: Basically, what we are going to try to do tonight is get any information from you
that we might need or we would like you to bring to the next meeting. This is just a workshop.
Mr. Walsh: My name is Tom Walsh. I represent Goodwill Industries. I am also the owner of
Sign Language. With me is Mary Cockrin. She represents Goodwill.
Mr. Prager: Why don't you tell us a little bit about the sign? We have some information on it.
Mr. Walsh: We are proposing a channel letter sign, seven feet by seven feet channel box. It is an
icon of Goodwill. Along side it is the Goodwill channel letters with an underline and then
"store" as well in channel letters that would be mounted on the facia of the old Rickel building.
Actually, I believe the address that you mentioned is incorrect.
Mrs. Cockrin: No, he said a hundred and eighty square feet.
Mr. Prager: Twelve seventy-one (the address), will you change that Linda?
Mrs. Nguyen: I have that. I think she is talking about the square footage of the sign. Originally
he presented a different size sign.
Mr. Prager: It would be a total of 288 square foot sign. Am I correct?
Mr. Walsh: Right.
Mr. Fanuele: I have a question for Don. How much bigger is this than the Channel sign?
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Mr. Close: I believe this is almost in the same footprint of the Channel sign that was there
before. If you look in the holes in the facia, it looks as if it is covering the same, doesn't it?
Mr. Walsh: If you calculate it the way I calculated it, I boxed out each square footage for the
icon, square footage for the Goodwill and the square footage for this. It comes to 188 square
feet, which is 8 square feet above. If you encompass the whole thing ...
Mr. Prager: Yes, which basically is what you're supposed to ...
Mr. Walsh: I researched and found out that Rickel was 288.
Mr. Prager: You must have something in your file about the Rickel sign. I assume that they
would have had to of gotten a variance in order to get it.
Mr. Close: We should have.
Mr. Prager: Okay, if you could have that by the next meeting.
Mr. Fanuele: Or the Channel sign.
Mr. Prager: Either one. You have a sign up there now.
Mr. Walsh: We have a banner up there now.
Mr. Prager: I just happened to spot it when I drove by. Anybody else have any questions?
Mr. Fanuele: I make a motion to set a public hearing.
Mr. Prager: Would you like to make a motion for the ZBA to be Lead Agency?
Mr. diPierno: I will make that motion.
Mr. Warren: Second.
Vote: All present voted ayes.
Mr. Prager: Neg. Dec?
Mr. diPierno: So moved.
Mr. Warren: Second.
Vote: All present voted ayes.
Mr. Prager: I would like to set the public hearing for the next meeting which is October 28`''. Do
you feel we need a site inspection?
Mr. diPierno: No.
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Mr. Prager: I think we are all set. I think we have all the information that we are going to need.
The next item of business on tonight's agenda is to discuss Appeal No. 1250 - Kenneth J.
Catale requesting a 14 foot side yard variance to construct a 26' X 26' detached garage on
property located at 48 Top O' Hill Road in the Town of Wappinger. Mr. Catale why don't you
come on up and state your name for the record and tell us a little bit about what you would like.
Mr. Catale: Kenneth Catale. I want to put a two car garage on ... I am tired of keeping my cars
outside. That is what it really comes down to the bottom line. Not only that, to keep some of my
tools and stuff in the garage.
Mr. Prager: You have two cars?
Mr. Catale: Yes, actually, we have three.
Mrs. Catale: (Too low)
Mr. Prager: How long have you owned the property?
Mr. Catale: Seventeen years.
Mr. diPierno: Are you the original owner?
Mr. Catale: No. The house was built in 1968.
Mr. Prager: Do we have a site plan? I know we have a sketch. We probably should have a site
plan. Do you have some type of site plan? That looks like it. No, what we need is an actual site
plan of your property. We need something with a stamp on it. Did you draw this?
Mrs. Catale: That is from the Town.
Mr. Prager: Did you get that Don?
Mr. Close: Yes, this is as much as we could get out of the copy machine.
Mr. Fanuele: I guess the question that I have is ...
Mr. Catale: The architect who did this, I don't know why it has a dormer on it, but it is not
supposed to have a dormer.
Mr. Prager: Can we have that copy?
Mr. Catale: Yes.
Mr. Fanuele: It is a one story garage.
Mr. Catale: Yes, I am going to put a gable on it. A little storage up on top. That is about it.
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Mr. Prager: This is how high here?
Mr. Catale: A 7 foot peek.
Mr. Prager: So it is about 25 feet high.
Mr. Fanuele: Can we take the garage and slide it over?
Mr. Catale: Well, I did. That is another thing that was a mistake on this. This is tucked behind
my house three feet, the garage. From the corner of that to the property line is eleven feet.
Mr. Fanuele: So, this is 11 feet now instead of 6 feet.
Mr. Catale: I asked for a 10 -foot variance. I don't know how it was changed.
Mr. Fanuele: This says from here to here is 6 feet. You're saying now it is eleven feet.
Mr. Catale: No, it is 10 feet. We just marked it out yesterday.
Mr. Prager: So, now you're saying instead of 6 feet, it is 10 feet?
Mr. Catale: Yes, actually, it is probably a little bit more than 10 feet.
Mr. Prager: That is what we want to hear. Just like I discussed with the other gentleman, if we
start giving big variance, we are changing the Law. We are not here to do that. We can give you
a little room, but not ...
Mr. Catale: It is closer to an 11 -foot variance.
Mr. Prager: Is there anyway you could bring it over a little more? I would go the maximum
amount that you can.
Mr. Catale: I went three feet behind the house as it is now. I have plenty of room on the far side
of me.
Mr. Prager: So you can bring it over even more?
Mrs. Catale: No, it would be directly behind the house. Our driveway runs ...
Mr. Prager: Yes, I see how the driveway is.
Mrs. Catale: We wanted it so we could come in ...
Mr. Prager: So you can come in to the front of it, right?
Mrs. Catale: Right.
Mr. Catale: The other thing that I can do is I could probably cock the garage ...
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Mr. Prager: At an angle?
Mr. Catale: So it is more parallel with this property line. Right now, I have the garage laid out
parallel with the house. If I turn the garage a little more, that will give me another foot on the far
corner. It would probably give me 12 feet.
Mr. Fanuele: You are going to take that and push this part over?
Mr. Catale: Yes.
Mr. Prager: You would still have the same thing on the one corner.
Mr. Fanuele: What would this corner be?
Mr. Catale: Ten feet, probably eleven feet. I have the original stakes still there on the property.
They are metal stakes.
Mr. Fanuele: It would be easy to get into the garage if you slide it up a little bit.
MIXED DISCUSSION
,r,W Mr. Prager: See how much you can bring it over. That is all I can ask you.
Mr. Catale: I have it staked out.
Mr. Prager: Does it have to be this wide? Why not put the door on this side instead of on the
front?
Mr. Catale: Because I am on a hill. In other words, I would have a three foot concrete wall all
the way around and the door would be parallel with the dirt. I didn't want to make stairs and
worry about water running into it. If I put it on the garage side, it will be water free.
Mr. Prager: I would like to see the property. Anybody else have any questions?
Mr. Catale: My next door neighbor has the same size garage next to him and two houses down
has the same size garage. Actually, the other guy had it done 10 years ago. One is a few feet off
the property line.
Mr. Prager: I noticed you said that and in fact I am glad you mentioned that again because I did
have that highlighted here that there are other structures in the neighborhood. Don, could you
check? Maybe you could give some of those property numbers to Mr. Close and see if there are
any variances on them. You're saying that they are closer to the line also?
Mr. Catale: It has been there for years, since it was built.
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r•• Mr. Prager: I don't think that development was put in before Zoning. If you had put in a single
double door, is there anyway of doing that to make it smaller or narrower? It would take this
area out and make it a little closer?
Mr. Catale: Actually, I had asked for a 26' X 27' and now we are down to 26'.
Mr. Prager: Well, if it meant getting the variance?
Mr. Catale: Can I keep the same sizes, but move them closer back behind the house?
Mr. Prager: Again, I don't know if it is practical to get them in. That is up to you to decide. I
don't want to keep you from having a garage. Don't get me wrong, but I want to keep it without
going too far overboard here.
Mr. Catale: I can probably take another foot off.
Mr. Prager: Can you look at it and by the next meeting give us a better idea of the dimensions?
Not only moving it over as far as you possibly can, but also possibly making it a little narrower
so it is useable. When we decide what the date is for the site inspection, I would like you to put
some stakes in and some rope. Now of course, you will probably have to move it over a foot or
so, you said, right?
SITE INSPECTIONS SET FOR OCTOBER 25, 1997, at 9:00 AM.
Mr. Prager: Like I said, as long as you have it staked out ... Then again, if you could bring it
over as far as you possibly can ...
Mr. Catale: Right now, like I said, I am three feet behind the house. I didn't want a door that
every time I want to get into the garage to open the garage door and ...
Mr. Prager: I want it practical for you too. I don't want you to take off part of your house in
order to get into the garage.
Mr. Catale: I have everything piled into a one car garage underneath the house. You can't even
move in there anymore.
Mr. Prager: I think I have everything. Don, you're going to check for us on those other garages
and see if there are variances for those. Anybody else? Okay, can I have a motion that the ZBA
be Lead Agency?
Mr. Warren: So moved.
Mr. diPierno: Second.
Vote: All present voted aye.
Mr. Prager: Motion for a Negative Dec.?
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Mr. Fanuele: Why don't we until the site inspection.
Mr. Prager: Okay, so we will wait for the Negative Dec. until the public hearing. I mind as well
set the public hearing right now for our next meeting which is October 28"'. Is that okay with
you? Again that will be 7:30 when all the meetings start.
Mrs. Nguyen: Howard, to do the legal notice I need the dimensions.
Mr. Prager: When do you need them by?
Mrs. Nguyen: By Friday.
Mr. Prager: The dimensions - how far from the property line do you plan to keep it?
Mr. Catale: Ten feet off the line.
Mr. Prager: You can't move it over anymore?
Mr. Catale: I can move it to eleven feet and that would mean I would be three feet behind the
house.
Mr. Prager: Eleven feet then. That is definitely better than the six feet you started with.
Mr. Catale: The property line is cocked so if you cock it, the front corner is still going to stay
where it is.
Mr. Fanuele: The back corner will have more.
Mr. Prager: I think that is all we need. The next item on the agenda is to discuss Appeal No.
1251 - Stephen & Melissa Fischer requesting a 5 foot side yard variance to construct a 6' X 12'
bicycle storage shed on property located at 257 Myers Corners Road in the Town of Wappinger.
State your name for the record.
Mr. Fischer: Stephen Fischer. First of all, since I am going through the trouble to try and get a
variance on this, I think I would like to go after an 8' X 15' size instead of 6' X 12'. Would that
be all right? Is there a problem with the size?
Mr. Prager: I do not think the size will come into it. Eight by what did you say?
Mr. Fischer: By 15, 120 square feet.
Mr. Prager: That doesn't matter as far as that goes. So it will be 8' X 15'. Are you calling it a
shed?
Mr. Fischer: A bicycle shed. There are actually two area variances I am looking for. One is for
the front yard restriction. I need to have that waived and I am looking for a 5 -foot side yard
variance. It is supposed to be 10 feet.
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Mr. Close: It is supposed to be 10, right and it is not supposed to be in the front.
Mr. Fanuele: The question I have here is you have a lot of property, why do you have to stick it
so close to the property line?
Mr. Fischer: It is pure esthetics to put it as close to the property line as I am putting it. As a
matter of fact, I wanted to ask, can we consider each of these variance requests separately? The
most important one is the front yard location. The secondary one would be the side yard
variance. The side yard variance, if I can push it up, this is the general location I would like to
have it. If I push it up against the property line a little more, it is less visible from the house and
less visible in general than where it would be if I push it out a little bit because there is some
trees and stuff ... That is the reason I would like to put it farther back. If I didn't have the front
yard variance to go after, I wouldn't have bothered at all for any variance. I would have just put
it 10 feet out.
Mr. Fanuele: I would ask the Zoning Administrator, where is the front yard on this?
Mr. Close: I take the front yard to be this is the street ... It is a paper road. That is something
else you might want to ...
Mr. Prager: That is my next question.
Mr. diPiemo: Is it a Town road?
Mr. Prager: No, I think this is a private road. Is this the one on a little bend on Myers Corners?
Mr. Fischer: Yes, Cappelli owns the right-of-way. The reason for the location is convenient
access from the driveway. Our driveway only comes up ... Actually, it doesn't extend this far
out. It comes up to about to there, opposite the shed. I do not have any storage of any sort near
the end of my driveway and I do have an existing shed over here. It is about 200 or 250 feet way
down hill. So, I wanted to put something small up here to keep bicycles in and to keep car
related things in. I wouldn't have the inconvenience of having to cart it around. Actually, this
shed is completely full now anyway.
Mr. Prager: Car related as to what?
Mr. Fischer: Like my jack, the things that ... Tools, stuff I cart around with me sometimes.
Sometimes like when I am taking my garbage to the dump, I don't want to cart it with me
because I would have to empty the car out.
Mr. Prager: I noticed you have got, and in your write up you also mentioned about your
neighbor's existing shed. I am confused about this shed here. It looks to me like it is in the
middle of the road. Is it?
Mr. Fischer: This is a right-of-way.
Mr. Close: That is your driveway too?
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Mr. Fischer: Right.
Mr. Prager: It is their driveway.
Mr. Fischer: Who, our neighbors?
Mr. Prager: Yes.
Mr. Fischer: They use this same right-of-way. This shed has been there since we moved in ten
or so years ago. It wasn't new at that time.
Mr. Prager: Their name is?
Mr. Fischer: That is Vera. It was recently sold. They recently bought it maybe six months ago.
Mr. Fanuele: How far is that shed from the property line?
Mr. Fischer: That shed is probably about one foot from my property line.
Mr. Prager: Again, can you (Don) check on that one?
Mr. Fischer: The difficulty with determining the exact dimensions are that there is no survey
marker at the corner here so we are making estimates of where all of those things are.
Mr. Prager: I have asked Mr. Close to check on that shed and see if there are any variances on
that. And how long it has been there.
Mr. Fanuele: Did you ever resolve where the front is?
Mr. Close: I say the front is facing the road. That is what I call it.
Mr. diPierno: It is arbitrary, but there is no alternative. If that is not the front, where is the front?
Mr. Close: That is what Stephen was saying. He could call this the front.
Mr. Fischer: I could call this the front since I do not plan to put any buildings down there.
Mr. Prager: Again, I am going to ask that same date we take a run out here since it is right
around the corner and take a look at this property also. I have a feeling I know where it is, but I
would like to see it.
Mr. Fanuele: My driveway does not come in to the front of my house. It actually comes in on
the side of my house.
Mr. Fischer: The main comment that I think I have here is that my impression is the purpose of
the front yard restriction shouldn't apply in this case since I have no frontage on any road at all.
The shed will not be a tall one. It will be relatively low profile. It will be on blocks so I can
move it if I have to.
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DISCUSSION
Mr. Fischer: I was debating whether to ask for an interpretation verses a variance.
Mr. Prager: Can I have a motion for the ZBA to be Lead Agency?
Mr. Fanuele: So moved.
Mr. Warren: Second.
Vote: All present voted aye.
Mr. Prager: Do we want to wait on a Negative Dec.? Okay, we will wait on the Neg. Dec. until
the public hearing. I am going to set the public hearing for October 28'. Can I have a motion to
adjourn?
Mr. diPierno: So moved.
Mr. Fanuele: Second.
Vote: All present voted aye.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:20 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Nguyen, Secretary
Town of Wappinger
Zoning Board of Appeals