1995-01-24E.
AMENDED AGENDA
Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals
January 24, 1995
Public Hearing & Workshop - 7:30 P.M.
Approval of January 10, 1995 minutes.
PUBLIC HEARING
Town Hall
20 Middlebush Road
Wappinger Falls, N.Y.
Appeal #1184 - At the request of JoAnn Wiggin, Rita Piliero, and
Vincent Piliero which is seeking a variance of Article IV, Section 412
whereas you have only a 12' access road and you are required to
maintain a 50' frontage on a town road, thus requiring a 35 'variance.
The property is located at 22 Cedar Knolls, and is identified as Tax
Grid #19-6158-02-600628-00 in the Town of Wappinger. The Zoning Board
of Appeals has declared itself Lead Agency and has made a Negative
Declaration of Significance for this project on December 13, 1994, as
there will be no environmental impacts with regard to this project.
ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING
1. Appeal 41175 - At the request of CLY Realty Corp. who is seeking two
(2) variances of Article IV, Section 412 of the Zoning Law of the Town
of Wappinger to allow the issuance of two (2) variances of two lots
which do not have legal frontage on a town road. The property is
located on Smithtown Road and is identified as Tax Grid
#19-6257-03-092038-00 and #19-6257-03-030050-00 in the Town of
Wappinger. The Zoning Board of Appeals has declared itself Lead
Agency and has made a Negative Declaration of Significance for this
project on October 11, 1994 as there will be no environmental impacts
with regard to this appeal.
2. Appeal #1182 - At the request of the Auto Bahn Cafe which is seeking
a variance of Article IV, Section 416.62 whereas only one (1) free
standing sign is allowed, and the appellant is requesting two (2) free
standing signs. The property is located at 299 New Hackensack Road,
at the intersection of Route 376, and is identified as Tax Grid
#19-6259-04-520203-00 in the Town of Wappinger. The Zoning Board of
Appeals has declared itself Lead Agency and has made a Negative
Declaration of Significance for this project on November 8, 1994 as
there will be no environmental impacts with regard to this appeal.
DISCUSSION
1. Joseph P. Paoloni - Discuss appeal #1187 requesting a satellite
antenna on the roof of a single family dwelling. The property is
located at 3 Hearthstone Drive, Wappinger Falls, N.Y.
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NOW 1.0001,
Wappinger Zoning Board
Amended Agenda - January 24, 1995
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2. Alpine Co. of Poughkeepsie - Discuss appeal 41188 requesting a 47'
sign variance. The property is located at 1357 Route 9,
Wappinger Falls, N.Y.
3. Alpine Co. of Poughkeepsie - Discuss appeal (#1189 requesting a
246 square foot sign variance on the west side of the vacant
building. The property is located at 1357 Route 9, Wappinger Falls,
N.Y.
4. Alpine Co. of Poughkeepsie - Discuss appeal #1190 requesting a 34
square foot sign variance on the south side of the building. The
property is located at 1357 Route 9, Wappinger Falls, N.Y.
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1 1 1)` t1n r 1 r
994 t11
�77_,': r, t. nl=✓+. _ur apy ,, val oil the fol lowillcr OlInts
aln x OS.^+i.1 1 e EXba11S1O11 bV SL: i v-1 l(.111`y
Y�:'a atllS Tt is our rc—I ^i— m-nclat' l lat
._... �.�r •_, Eii�L Qel. < < ?
is Tocan HLghWay ^pees he ti- te-?. " 717, t- tc. -
l
t ^a: ;-.'ri v"Ywf-'ll. lit 0ii1 first %ec-embt-rl mc-r�.tina cc,1 i�!It ,.. ,_f
211 -7 earl V Z'eilennhc-i- meet.i ng Voll CO1nsEntel tC address t1-tah
•. t
?1e rt"a`l t" TCi'Vril :�iD t CS
-1= Tt bt;i.ilcl be part of the i"e Oi and 1 f it i.' nOt pal -t f t1._.
Grill. submit it ricrht now. A letter dated ^e� nlber t}�,� t1;
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-? --'-T ai1cl Ne nsnlan; vrl',ic-b lnr a-Idresse;= racl; .;f the.•e
th Sat. - s a (7 tion I t11OLicrht we di.��C11SStad It cat t.11 .r, l:fS`
t1n�� m-aii?e w011lc� -1n fact ^.oI,fCi-i t
w,a' _t1ca-t 0115
>tie a.ld �.15._..ISS that at. the last nlr'EtiilG aii.d ti_.e nice' -.":.Iii.,'
Adanis : I tllougllt- those issues had beef addressed. through t`�at
tni lEtI cf recemrel- the 1?th? was that1 =' t'
,I L:--"•�I.St In I have never seen i t .
. -+ ci:-. . T `-i,11 k wC-. wrre- aoina tO suhml.t 1117 ^S at t11e c:l-GLil'71F Ge}.
iI_7 ,i. i.-. ._. V''i- a(.'t '-117 1T, 4L tt C�..
r Pr:zg.�r: That doesn't look familiar.
r f`1— me etl1lC.T V011 ilaCI aQ17reCl tC 1;`
. Adams : That is r.arrr;-t .
i[ ,,=1i _ ti 11.,_ W11a` lr 1 :a Ci 3G re Eu tC; 7iI-1 '01: r^t .,',r iF Z ;y ii' vv CI
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nrt t1 w cT,i-i r- E�.':71_f t,_-,�'l.
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Wl'.e]; 1OLi I-&'a'ia Nlr. Rai1-ii'�t:` I'_ t� 1i
_ N lIl!�1C,�t;= s 1 1.at Tlie � 1' ;��b.� :�. �, :;
i r ISS'Ll J and r
tec? t0 1 -
1T,eet t ie "1 w1� Cf wr2�I iI c:, l'1 Ql?W,9V t'�.^ f'i - -
adr vli1 %)e i11 C.CeS� ofhe 7 1 m1P,ddl-.
1 I �s -s
R]i1iearlier 1 ttei
, _ e i t'e Owli Cif W53:
llltr7Fl- Hiallwa Cts ^ l f -l" a C, r,
R. -4l Ina is g22ctina Highway Speclficaticns. Arm cve
S�aPir^ t11i21C1 llei -?
Vii-,_ you talklna h]ahwav or drivewnV?
VC,lll T'_ivewdv SlDe 7 f i dtI I; al'C ut :ha lt;
^f arae - they y.^12n Hicrhway S�rr.ificationr. c
` 1 li Pe'etlna a mere Sti'ic`.t. test then
t11 -c 771'1`JEWBV VOlI ai'e aC1r t, hu 1Cl C(7,k•I_,
H o'I ay ^pa,^ificati0ns^
nct t e c.eed am -I i 17 terms of gra'i1;g :gin paI-t; c.1' ,71
y and .l_l
ter,rs of grade not to s l],
_ . .; s el . would not e.-::.erd 15?- for highway. l)id ycl] e: rives an _
HL r" .� .a: No.
r,e e never seen : t .
iii.iel I wdS27 t dere heforer hllt you due hL111C1121Q i.t
:- 1>y ,arc VC, deal _aLllla it tC tlic t0W1:?
'. P; agrl 7111- !-Cwn dcesn' t want it .
7c31i11,z__ T :;-i are hl_illdina to PiCJhW3': tht=n \7011 dOIi't
i]:1 :9n Ce
rli Gill m11e Hlahwa�J >± eC ar:_ 3 tC, Qrct i.
..., c-'T-nS:-:Ii T, tQw]i d:�C:�]-, t JJalit file
a_ Lila to b1,11C1 7 ,r
,,j
frward
a ^.copy Cf this tette_ .
e,t ..
He is nct
talk _na
ahcut hiahwa, Hr i:. fialk._na ah:.
-v
I aIII
i 3m ULlotina Asir. �c+ilir: S irtfiel
`i C1aliS:
_ a.11 C1'_
]List'
R. -4l Ina is g22ctina Highway Speclficaticns. Arm cve
S�aPir^ t11i21C1 llei -?
Vii-,_ you talklna h]ahwav or drivewnV?
VC,lll T'_ivewdv SlDe 7 f i dtI I; al'C ut :ha lt;
^f arae - they y.^12n Hicrhway S�rr.ificationr. c
` 1 li Pe'etlna a mere Sti'ic`.t. test then
t11 -c 771'1`JEWBV VOlI ai'e aC1r t, hu 1Cl C(7,k•I_,
H o'I ay ^pa,^ificati0ns^
nct t e c.eed am -I i 17 terms of gra'i1;g :gin paI-t; c.1' ,71
y and .l_l
ter,rs of grade not to s l],
_ . .; s el . would not e.-::.erd 15?- for highway. l)id ycl] e: rives an _
HL r" .� .a: No.
r,e e never seen : t .
iii.iel I wdS27 t dere heforer hllt you due hL111C1121Q i.t
:- 1>y ,arc VC, deal _aLllla it tC tlic t0W1:?
'. P; agrl 7111- !-Cwn dcesn' t want it .
7c31i11,z__ T :;-i are hl_illdina to PiCJhW3': tht=n \7011 dOIi't
i]:1 :9n Ce
rli Gill m11e Hlahwa�J >± eC ar:_ 3 tC, Qrct i.
..., c-'T-nS:-:Ii T, tQw]i d:�C:�]-, t JJalit file
a_ Lila to b1,11C1 7 ,r
CW_M
1� ai -C 1D
w.=, al -e. gett -i n a col-ri�--th
W �j t a 4 n,,,,+ -e, now.
T-" o 4
v differrnt.
I �- -) �'+-'-e;
S t a z tZ , - : - I;i u :_ - ' - 1 4
W ci,�,i-tdna off has��i here-
'Cj 1,D I V -T for. T tl il- I Wle� Sh011' Cl st i cl: to what
Ca
I I � " -1
17 I -T 4 17 1_� I a "qct neceissarilv. T thiny- what 17),7011911t, 11-P is ;�' '_ai,
, _. I- -'1 4- 1,
nur qiiestionP Ins-ve gc,, to the m inimum varl
i; 110 v a r i a n (7 q u 17;:,
road that the town -ac(-,-Ipt,,(, tl -11 thel
-.n 1 F for a min imv�m var anc& .
11
A C1 a -'l-i s Let me revise that statement. T think that ma'Y"&
4
w& art, not going to h1, 1 C1 a
j -, t 1 j s for a highway. W e� F1 17 & CT C i CT S R t I if
.ati-vi:� Minimilm 1— 1 - - -
-W ' - are ig to satisfy the nriveway Speci fi,
a '-7 t! I e W,:- CjO i n I
other things the Width,_Fcjjlian,7�- which address among
s o So, T th4_nI, what Mr. Rai I i F, 3 4
i
v I ii r�1,r1e S that, in terms Cf grade and in 17esponse Lieber 7l
1CttC 4J.eareg(-Ana t(-
ex c e & d the e H i gh wa v -pec- ac- t
1t ^=e:lliltg that a fair standard to satisfy
that everything 1
7 + has to be clarifie,
t7,:, 1- 4 11 t t- Tjighwa%7 cpPrificatins- If oil
stick to
going to _ Highway Specifications i which i.ncllldes
T
i f
v,:-- !r more s u e " I
s s' r Tu; C1 yoll aj, vec '=�' 7,
j,-ji a co-py of that, 'Letter from ' 7- -I p C, - h -r t
t j7ia'Jet a COIDV. T think he opie(! me T 111.;t havt
r C v it
e"tra COPY -
T i, Z
we want to know obviol-ISlY What the s'P&,7s auP that. theroad
h n I t Ts +1-11at C-0171-&Ct"
T WoUld like to sPe this,. T am _o,,jfjlSed rinow ail;" - �
,�- I-
'-
-tment is also confils!_-3. T
r le h t T p 17'z v & 1-1 t i (-I. n. n' tz' r" a I
i f i a t 4 c n they tht_v
are rerecommendinga private d r J v i- w ai
a3- 1 t F F .7 r
c-! built a to Town q --cc _ci f i cation., If that if what. tl.It�'
then that makes a whole different hall Of wla-"7- W
;ether h p j s 10 f7� -7 ng f o r a rl F i ""F, w a y or a r n, -i!'-!
L g,
C i f i C a t, i C, 1-1 s a s a "-I
H r'y' a 1 a pililt to Town HighwaV SPL
tt, o -,r, wthe t(-
7 y SC -17: AcTain the t1-1wil Mav not lhtii will �1ncr to a(7rc=ct l t.
1 :9 7 `V pi' 1 1 -) a h 'A _�V I I V e' I —J I
It liar
1%w err V
✓aQ�m
1 ah ten ll;, Q17 tl1rP a -0p -Cac11
Levenson 1+'r Foster isn't intereste_:,d In taking the i Cad.
,'Sr . 73Ii',ic':' C', T f flip ;-Oad 15 huI i t t0 Town Specs, flow Can Mr Fi=; °L.�='1-
17 T, Lon: It has to he offered.
iar. Hil-171 Tt Lias to be offered.
r �aF 17: Has it herll ffc
T, v n rho n': t that T know of .
w ar& tli-[&v wild -1 na it. to T:;wi TTHiC1'tiwL:a-
J
- t
._.i.�i: t, rriia t.. Ci�1�'� ie iir ..�cl i. t
t L . 'n -i. L'J i 3 10 e. 7- l h a J C .. , i .�. F': j 1 -r '7 1 ^
171 aaCs
Mit .
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; "1 L , intend to ,^_omply witl- those. We are not asri_
:i r•.u7iT, s e �rrta� i
=Yri a-nCe fr^m thy= standar- 15z set frith
: %ou are strictlti talking about the grade
'e. s 0, ;; al, ye a Certain grad- h] aC1:top heC .m
-'anQ, atCry . t�, are going to go above that grade so the` hl.aCl;t.o± i�; :+.=i i.
ellgitieerillg--termination he Trade once it is actually. e.;'a'Jat-Ld
_t i i we the grade t equir e.d for blacktop, then wF- will ut i r +.l -,r-
passel": We are talking drive -way now.
.cis: i 4"7
. is dr ivewaL s .
71a . 1 what is the pt lrcpntage of the dr iye�Jav ;ita iIRII.:r^
•.r; ;iasis er 1c.�_
>tiF'i -�i Il-lere"! 1S a17 ehcent7.021 I:n � G
lis H:i l:dla :T1%W dJtry tilctt :a iffei f r c m it i^,'r=11'�i�eW,�� V.lt' �,'IvT�
"Tf a.t L._ � i c t.d tri is l=' ll, -ii r=ci S cia;.l_,`=
2 n r
:'�li1 LYt P. ;i - Ja1.?.iaL � �. + %._•
r Ia �tttC; nnt eXCee _5`_
_ Hirkala cS; };Llt. we ne1Pd tC; maka that drtr=l"nlinat�.C:ll
,r_ ^ i1-73eI-: C,nrreC:t -
t Hirk.xla: But; the poiilt also comes back to what I said he-f0re. 11
;� -. +:.,�'• rg I-,;_Tt t}ie To�n
Town Zcning rdnance. about nriveway Specif ic7t I
lJ: t: l king ,dhOLlt Highway fipecif ications or rl-iv:-wd'.'
t:._. ,. .
is all adllrl e11t co11t1 ad1 C tlOY1 .
t.}1e Fil-e PrE'Jrllt4 on Pureau has brought 11-1,
y. ~ifi-ationI think that. r.larificaticn
c, 11 ,_ - s_i,,g to request from t}1e Firs. Preve31tiC)n F.11re.,l1
rt}ie 5tatei7leIlt Highway S-0eci.ficatiOil
a 1 fI
t T , ?th that T '
it Y -t •1 -)n VOli }i a e: et.tel -0111 alYidl-
..�z",.•r' t ,1; •i1 ..pie'. h e rii1x1111 i_T1 VCAI 1 fit e? A .Tall. ilal'V lt;lt.t.e
ObvicuslV we need a cIarificat.ior.
};ala: T, %m:_ Of t}ie <'1aI-1fic8tloll� t}iat `✓Je 1- -d
P117 fig: - ser: we have hee11 talking about town roads and driveways a37d
deternl i3ie r;-IctIV what �e are talking ahcllt dlia
ate that With the Fife Prevent on Bureeau and With i rab x111
t_+ „_,_ i ay 1S illldcl :.ta11C37 ng t}ie Sallie th_I ng
,_,
1 r ,
�,
ii' , dla �iOLl }lave t3 get ClavifiCat _Or fUC)i: 11e i1. rrt 7 tits'
let},rI" they wC)'.'Il ai be li agreement Of what bis
11 T would br I n c 1 ined tc: f
Prevention Bureau to a greattent; hut.
1T�1 �a}lat t}1ry are talking about. and what he is talking abc,ut;
ever,.t 'sl i S two -I fferelit. things -
= wliat we are talking ah011t. is Clt ttillg a
`hey cl tai— y it17dE 1 S:tai;:l e};nC:t1'7 W}jat.
}..:c. b1 it is what thr gl ciClcS ire, whatthe_f l
�Je w -i et i Jill he Flre PreveIlt7 JYi
f t
}Iey' y' e 111 agreement Or di; agreE'Tliellt.
J}i,dt - That l:� 4:}lat I Wa:� CICt+1.Y' t .
I dm SaV11i�l.
mi- f be.:aLiSe Of the, 1'E f ct eii'P T y l'ee
d tlt� 1 c �S S'j �� .1 Ll:� > :'
fr- f�1t1-..r `, ,Jet�s t}1at I mill .iCt tat};illa .';b -
'•'-- - __ -. 1 - - - ' 1_kc= t�, ;�er� VOLT ge=nt. t}l�>Sr=
vJU Ll �.. �..1 Cl 1 4 U i _ _� t S
j it ine 4ti'e eh a
d=..iaTi ,.
Wit✓ it l r ii n �_S._
14 T n r_
P7u=-
-�t that we =,:7- : ;;I -ti this ?;I ti 1
•11 . t^i1"ir a _a : want a clar if l_cation. what was the dQree al�nt on the
�,
r,. -j S1C)1" '�, !it")lJ W, -i:-, t}lnt c37,1'eE'I t 1hCC'..3USE- l t h;3= ,err - ii 7 e1�-
}-lancTInU atUili:d for a long f:lmea. T am sta tine `:�7? Get.
F 7V P, i 11,
7 .e1 :tie need to pelt a-.OVeIlallt in there that Says that. t.11ere Wli'
iio f ,rt'�er li� of the load h%T any otliel- Lots. 'rt. can not be
}.=17 n.dams : you was concerned ahout over burdening the road. Now, t�,e
1V. 511—c ; a lanI,&t-0roh]rltion Aaa,'nst i --,—,u clivisio
Lds ;7ming back t0 Voll and savino hecallse eof the new ::ircumnstalli'.eti
It r--,. r_i =t tCC�.�v mit ria vh ,a-C`PiDt ah Iat ':lint i c . 1it 3incl tim''.
is gonia t.c happen 20 vears from now. I think L indicated t�)
I t ict I 11: d :a little he: it,ation about comili ttinca a plr
1 r =r+ t something in perpettlity without some rFlief valve in the
that nolle of 11f; env-ision todnv. Some-hc
a. nE:.-w hlahwav through. That woulcl, chin Qe the circumstance
has:: r : Frank they wouldn' t htz able t0 suhdividr-_ that wlth.Uilt
B . A . epi sted at that time .
LevFl s n : Cr the p annina Board.
al,l s1J _7estlncl �T^'.1 granted the Va17jance' ^-•o T allF,'lag,c� t r:j
t'lat tw:) f regl.lest hack to you before resllhdivislon . 71'at waz; My
�. �.-..a'a: T cin't fiiid i.t. in my files here; but we }cave iti w1:tilig
..,., _ the i efrl'eliCE' f07- i]S Ili tlic eVeIl Cf C1l'a11tl1l:7 t}ie V;7i yl',;',�
strict.i,n. Ne have that in writing.
T call prnzosE elle 1 i neige ful- vol -1 i f that., iwhat
vitl"',a"
"Ir Ni rl-a1, 3 ?do, that we can get our own attorney for it-. what I alit
3 r i; 7, -Ist vc""i are making A as to what you wail's til
1.CII 17 of 0111-5 to ID e. T woule, 2}'r. to see sC:mPtllillCf l.ii
ti i' 1 fr":;ii `TotaIi t11at .
File .
l 75, r Ill a` c''tiUn; as long ds vCLl arc i"L cOrdlliC the ir c, L -illat
lv "iii =.ave voui ,:elf a ,tep by ley : rt int, that to hint f,
get his ^om,ill ents oil that.
ati lt- q th 7 T n t ep any r`'fEr",,.'7_Iig tl' t
:'-7 7... X13 c)I dait
i. ci tl, t "Tay filliSh t.}:s n '.'rtl;1� 4tl .
'."'u'
deli' t want aill
lltOat 17 laiit tC' t'F I *'Ol -,
t.iat. IllI;a et: t 111t that 1-1CTht. 7 Want tC; c ''
l 9
t iff iii } J iii0dlfV GJilatFVel" :'Ond-'tions youCl-Fate �r •^ Y'1�F t�1c 1"
lr t,
C).. 1-1 , t l;c ''f tl-:F co,n'� +--," S reili- Jer .. ,-! 3iOn ^f
} t: I aT11 51111 Z' Sc,Vi:1a t.11at. II'J :Il 1'Ff1FC:t1': 1• t- F 't' rt^i '.-t-
y .1tV C;Wntr at 1Fas; t come. bat' : t0 a11d Yllni:c ti1S
,;: i don't Piave a F,1701117iei11 with t11at.
-I- - I; 11 al l ead` Have a �l&,Cede11 e St t f 0l f(:)1117 10t.,`,
':t vv v�i_t�i+ra Vaiidi1•^e'. How ca'IF volt g:in to
(?�'
there }1r�.fC)i-e. tCi wj-,en we. t ad 11Y °�7 V1 l
IlVn t F- �'C', w11F1"e
-lice You grant this, Variance you Fare (7 Ci i11 u
-II atiVb'ody el .St a varz an Ce -
rrri+.=Ser : :met s0111r_ language before Al and 1F— u. SeF i t .
a'liS : T'liat 7 tl why I have tO 1,1a� I fV t ie l angliaC1P . I dJli' t 4: I
al tJiiiatic. Thz-are has to he-, ca change in cirCumstancl. ,- or SC?
The amount of land that you have there, yuu havF a aco;i
-;;r, he C)e'v'elr —c! 1.nt0 a numhei- Of houses. 7o;, ci, —4
SLihdivision lir if It was :iJ11F properl
We beyond that . We have exhausted that process .
l:nt ± i_.i1e fI"allle art y011 lOOI_ina fol a p( tFl".tial It !,th , F�
none in mind. S have na yaelnda I_ iCT"- 1�C,ia.
tele: Arr you tall, ^^ yews? Are you talr_inr two year:-
`•i "dant. : -iiCe you fi.lF this vari, 1-Ceit is oontinucus iTi pF1-pFtui.t
flit t 1: chaliae.-,A .
i=•11" ra TillFlr"•. AI'e Voll Will -Mg t0 acCFpt lan Cltlaae that a"JS v^ -LI .':all ,•tit
UI 50111E t."1iiiefra111e Qtlitl" then a year aiid a hry7f
T would
pliil. ft, i E' i
dlffFlelit.
S}.aliaiyt.
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t i l-� i. t i a t o +
-TlnLltrs
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i s th i
c�' .-.
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handl 4 ng
t'-, sir F, I- .11Fle
t
Fal;"iClF
NF i^ ,;.= the int
t�
(-)f
1 fll`lIl-e
OWii
ctu. ll WaI7t. tJ
ill't11.C�
a Fal l �'FWeiti
elild }il =i; r yr'� e t'=;
L111d d
?e4 t
wa, -'^GaI tl:e road
il, the
flit,ai
deli' t want aill
lltOat 17 laiit tC' t'F I *'Ol -,
t.iat. IllI;a et: t 111t that 1-1CTht. 7 Want tC; c ''
l 9
t iff iii } J iii0dlfV GJilatFVel" :'Ond-'tions youCl-Fate �r •^ Y'1�F t�1c 1"
lr t,
C).. 1-1 , t l;c ''f tl-:F co,n'� +--," S reili- Jer .. ,-! 3iOn ^f
} t: I aT11 51111 Z' Sc,Vi:1a t.11at. II'J :Il 1'Ff1FC:t1': 1• t- F 't' rt^i '.-t-
y .1tV C;Wntr at 1Fas; t come. bat' : t0 a11d Yllni:c ti1S
,;: i don't Piave a F,1701117iei11 with t11at.
-I- - I; 11 al l ead` Have a �l&,Cede11 e St t f 0l f(:)1117 10t.,`,
':t vv v�i_t�i+ra Vaiidi1•^e'. How ca'IF volt g:in to
(?�'
there }1r�.fC)i-e. tCi wj-,en we. t ad 11Y °�7 V1 l
IlVn t F- �'C', w11F1"e
-lice You grant this, Variance you Fare (7 Ci i11 u
-II atiVb'ody el .St a varz an Ce -
rrri+.=Ser : :met s0111r_ language before Al and 1F— u. SeF i t .
a'liS : T'liat 7 tl why I have tO 1,1a� I fV t ie l angliaC1P . I dJli' t 4: I
al tJiiiatic. Thz-are has to he-, ca change in cirCumstancl. ,- or SC?
The amount of land that you have there, yuu havF a aco;i
-;;r, he C)e'v'elr —c! 1.nt0 a numhei- Of houses. 7o;, ci, —4
SLihdivision lir if It was :iJ11F properl
We beyond that . We have exhausted that process .
l:nt ± i_.i1e fI"allle art y011 lOOI_ina fol a p( tFl".tial It !,th , F�
none in mind. S have na yaelnda I_ iCT"- 1�C,ia.
tele: Arr you tall, ^^ yews? Are you talr_inr two year:-
`•i "dant. : -iiCe you fi.lF this vari, 1-Ceit is oontinucus iTi pF1-pFtui.t
flit t 1: chaliae.-,A .
i=•11" ra TillFlr"•. AI'e Voll Will -Mg t0 acCFpt lan Cltlaae that a"JS v^ -LI .':all ,•tit
UI 50111E t."1iiiefra111e Qtlitl" then a year aiid a hry7f
T would
pliil. ft, i E' i
dlffFlelit.
S}.aliaiyt.
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t i„
:. C= t h
t i l-� i. t i a t o +
c) I e. diff
- l.' ., .. .i. 7, 'n
i s th i
c�' .-.
..i- ,'i
handl 4 ng
t'-, sir F, I- .11Fle
t
;C7i11c' ,few
.'.J.i ...;.L:tTi1:,t.ciii::FS
7}r.. .. . ._...
(-)f
,
-fes � +h r
_-„ rrJl-
3C1. 7_•
rcj,-i i.,
i-Fall`i
t
Slicker Road.
erz, a'11c;wed to he, :�liL)(- le, 011 .1Own to one. aci: c i::t5 .
iilii=` aI1Ce 1S what diCt;atP_.S what happens not only OIl t,lie appl.i '3.':Y:
t1 i,- lde. Tf e- have t0 T_DIC'tci't aCT, 'St
.:)Ii this ti id,- a1So.
VOii might walla to "IJnSi''lei al A Cili3pS
lio feel eaS-'&17 and T don't know how the rest of the hoard feels, if y0i1
y a i' 7V C" Vr,Ilalit not to Slih.7li vide further witiloilt the I
ei.ng brought tip to Town Road SpE-C'1fiCatlOI15; 11Ct 1i - iVCWct�ti;
f i C,3t i ;n:; . Then ; perhaps the road would then he clic , t= ' r
That kind of latlQtiaaP T think w•^,1;� a t71 1 P r 'rl'�'l
%OYi- . 'r'. i. 1" w.- d 1 3 : ..^'lie O f t'17 t-
thiras that T want tC; sce is not Some lik.
', `. .£t :ill ' i_1111 -C all(then a variance that has been Voted Oli allcl y011 :=.ay
t 1.zzi allied; aI"i d. the ial'tgliage 1sn t i11 place. Now; the 1_a11gtlagt=
They .err ial:}-l;i the application for theVal -lance_ It is llr t-
ILr.r `o Satisfy us.
Right; what lie is ,going to do is
That i5 wily T Say it iS for tlieti to gat. 'Jolie language 3n:i
rent t t: uS alit we will tell you whether we 1:;ke it or n:Dt.
,`i._ a are correct and you wire going to write something tli:=,t
that yO1i a3i i yoiir c ient want
ill 'daiiia: ,IV heed which Voll I -lave, 111St ex pressed
SetArid 1, ^,;35: Ad have. Al review that and give his opinion at iii 1i=1:`
•, 1 -
:Meeting. Ts there anything else? Ts there someone tonight that. would
in regard to this prOjeCt. Let the record show that. tllel_e
T wc,uld lke tC: adjourn thiS Until Fel`rtlat"V 14tH
I"ii , lilove:l .
ir. Lelligli: Second.
1_ iIi f avOr .
T,"la ".+. —Iian.k yCil.
ill'. a Se l %'i'e IiC.it item 01_1 the aClelida is `N Fhial 1: _ 3t tL rCSlle t Of
T- . =e -ti i1
s � Ga:111 i afl-'. li i. i, l -i iS =�Ct=1`.il i7 V:Tt lcli�. £ :�-+tit 1. C",ir ��i
;' a I-1; nr fre�,=tit .1 :r,rr ..i rile a'.?��:ea; 3n 3 the- appell ar;t
7 am .74
4
4-
olit
einperfence
in the past has h
t.11at. wh,;it
we
liaV peel- Si.tllatioI-1S
ill tlii to4Tii
+
drivewa�,s i.f
y�ii wi.11.; that ;test
fi �, ,,� ,I
t y i -, 1.1cl_ n',
'l.
Slicker Road.
erz, a'11c;wed to he, :�liL)(- le, 011 .1Own to one. aci: c i::t5 .
iilii=` aI1Ce 1S what diCt;atP_.S what happens not only OIl t,lie appl.i '3.':Y:
t1 i,- lde. Tf e- have t0 T_DIC'tci't aCT, 'St
.:)Ii this ti id,- a1So.
VOii might walla to "IJnSi''lei al A Cili3pS
lio feel eaS-'&17 and T don't know how the rest of the hoard feels, if y0i1
y a i' 7V C" Vr,Ilalit not to Slih.7li vide further witiloilt the I
ei.ng brought tip to Town Road SpE-C'1fiCatlOI15; 11Ct 1i - iVCWct�ti;
f i C,3t i ;n:; . Then ; perhaps the road would then he clic , t= ' r
That kind of latlQtiaaP T think w•^,1;� a t71 1 P r 'rl'�'l
%OYi- . 'r'. i. 1" w.- d 1 3 : ..^'lie O f t'17 t-
thiras that T want tC; sce is not Some lik.
', `. .£t :ill ' i_1111 -C all(then a variance that has been Voted Oli allcl y011 :=.ay
t 1.zzi allied; aI"i d. the ial'tgliage 1sn t i11 place. Now; the 1_a11gtlagt=
They .err ial:}-l;i the application for theVal -lance_ It is llr t-
ILr.r `o Satisfy us.
Right; what lie is ,going to do is
That i5 wily T Say it iS for tlieti to gat. 'Jolie language 3n:i
rent t t: uS alit we will tell you whether we 1:;ke it or n:Dt.
,`i._ a are correct and you wire going to write something tli:=,t
that yO1i a3i i yoiir c ient want
ill 'daiiia: ,IV heed which Voll I -lave, 111St ex pressed
SetArid 1, ^,;35: Ad have. Al review that and give his opinion at iii 1i=1:`
•, 1 -
:Meeting. Ts there anything else? Ts there someone tonight that. would
in regard to this prOjeCt. Let the record show that. tllel_e
T wc,uld lke tC: adjourn thiS Until Fel`rtlat"V 14tH
I"ii , lilove:l .
ir. Lelligli: Second.
1_ iIi f avOr .
T,"la ".+. —Iian.k yCil.
ill'. a Se l %'i'e IiC.it item 01_1 the aClelida is `N Fhial 1: _ 3t tL rCSlle t Of
T- . =e -ti i1
s � Ga:111 i afl-'. li i. i, l -i iS =�Ct=1`.il i7 V:Tt lcli�. £ :�-+tit 1. C",ir ��i
;' a I-1; nr fre�,=tit .1 :r,rr ..i rile a'.?��:ea; 3n 3 the- appell ar;t
EM
n Ci
.7a11UaI _74
^.t'.ng tW % 1 fI" GStrZIi 7_I� 7 Cl 17 TliE -C r, -3i 1-t�T 7 S oCatPC1, at nn Tvt�Gv
Road; at th lI1tPT SeCt1oI of PC.IltP .,?F aTIC� ll� _f 1 F� 7S
-i. ';,'r_:^-o4-r^�'0'-o7 in the Town of Wa-O
::gals iTas de: laced itself Lead Agency and has made ry ''irgativr
�;;i ii c. LU1 t1; moi" �r t on TlovCitl - J J ,
_.
._..i .]t C' Lati 11iC C_- 11 �, __ �'%i�tlId-T.ttrt 711 i l,iV t.1 OTi. tliat
%Ll Wal1t a S&COIid Call aftel ?
T c:1CQF t +17at JOU 1-eC7�'"pst 1f dh;'l v��% in tl7r n't1:� e?i� c 1
! ern1- <^ iIt r a h n .
tllera- scmeion1e here that would TiTe to
z:
�, a . T, here a rey resetatative from Ftlto a?�t: r tl c-
7
n._
Fr. n. aiS.^,li-.S OT; OIC .T^.. ^rTJh p PaO1 T1 t.o dZ.S"1TSS ^�.�P31 ti� n
^-�1 1 ,y ateli - te' antenna on the roof of a sing] e family eweI
. ,moi : i r7 a
i 1 rl"t i i CatEd at J Hr_ artlZStoT1e T l`7 V ;ro'a1JTJiil��2' C all_S; ''
-t.'. tl; t I,.�;l,t. an' I think ,roll guys d,d to. T really haven't 1 s:?
t .
f'i1-r�,"7.3.a:
T, etc
��� �COI1C, Cai 1 OTL this.
e W_Ll� T?llSll 1t t^ t.�.
7-t
tip again.
\r►
i7
you y
know Wily T am saving th1S
'Ls I Cause we had a S1tUat C':':
acv-, and what saved our
bacon �s the fact. tl-iat
'GrllPt'
,gars
tial- on the corner of 'w'idmer
and
earthstolic: Dr _ "'r�
:)17 1r
Fr. n. aiS.^,li-.S OT; OIC .T^.. ^rTJh p PaO1 T1 t.o dZ.S"1TSS ^�.�P31 ti� n
^-�1 1 ,y ateli - te' antenna on the roof of a sing] e family eweI
. ,moi : i r7 a
i 1 rl"t i i CatEd at J Hr_ artlZStoT1e T l`7 V ;ro'a1JTJiil��2' C all_S; ''
-t.'. tl; t I,.�;l,t. an' I think ,roll guys d,d to. T really haven't 1 s:?
t .
r Eecause the testi1,a on that tet-- was Jori- 31ld
"POW ;. iV ,%1-.t_, liF =ill �(t =i �IC;J SlCil'i3i 1S01, th
".T1 r't'. 3. r,.�
-•__ n- - T., 1 i. �•.•� 1. �l1 \^� 1-'.'
`v
_
I i o
1. a7 i
f'i1-r�,"7.3.a:
1 I".eed a lot more i_nf rmatiolz.
Anti^le TV Ser.fiion 41x.41.
-1
MC 17h,
Tl.r e iti tl"tr gtl 3 i 011g Sin = ,f
fire
'GrllPt'
tial- on the corner of 'w'idmer
and
earthstolic: Dr _ "'r�
this, is inside Hearthstone.
.' ;,,lst hr_ of- y tell
lis
w1, -;r he needs a e?
Herb y y
r Eecause the testi1,a on that tet-- was Jori- 31ld
"POW ;. iV ,%1-.t_, liF =ill �(t =i �IC;J SlCil'i3i 1S01, th
".T1 r't'. 3. r,.�
-•__ n- - T., 1 i. �•.•� 1. �l1 \^� 1-'.'
`v
_
I i o
1. a7 i
to e t= f i' i L i C a I i t WI -1 c=� '. j i �" t.•• t=, � F
big i:. tt1;.� t11ir,-
1
5E1 7ITSt 5C VOlT L117�it I"StaT1C� tonight this is no' a ' llh' i,7.
-} ham, -e to ti -v it- The purpose of tori ght. is to gath&
t = if 'l ii"inti Jit We nlglt. le SO J1?r T^1] i�0 Oil-er tr: t11- 111"l
;.? ri >lie; i 41G111.C1 like to Trow if -able is availihle t �
'
- :;h ;illo he Part of the appli^ati_o `I t}`at T fil
J Tt h
rz-cpI ics t.C;li a11d T put c1oW11 Z n'
Are vc;tI avincT it nstalled plofrssioliall� .
„
.les
hilt it
is I1::t an equal substitute.
=ee rate]iite
T 111) I,,,!
_ ,
what is
n
th r. s3%.e f t.}ie artl=.r11 ,9 pl. op
_:1. ?tis house With 1-�n;
vve L'1a11t tO GC c. r
t+
7 ails tC 9ii:itlier =itc .
ti So T 1-1ave..--
mt
+
s actIIallV -^, 1 T measured
t. I
the -
'71 T 1r7t7
I sai.c'L
it is not a puhlic hearilla.LTest
wolll._ r=
t
to ? ini ally
illfoI- P`iatiC) tl1at vc)Ii lave
whether it be
'
- :;h ;illo he Part of the appli^ati_o `I t}`at T fil
J Tt h
rz-cpI ics t.C;li a11d T put c1oW11 Z n'
Are vc;tI avincT it nstalled plofrssioliall� .
a:: Sci - tt-I.iIl1L that. it W011ld help conn inc.e mic- Mote if I Li 1_.aC
I t- ;-,^1 1c?eYe;3 nt; e :-pert il: *l f e1;1 i1-1 ate * -
]have to he plat"_ d in 3 Manner t} at �✓OLl 6laTit l + % .:_r 1
1 c<Lll;1 nr: oa get .
M r " 'That: is ahs:)llltely So; h I I t vol.] 1Tie•aII Qet. a :;,9tellite
�. ^:-•=.er. Pe1-];9ps 9r. it staff I er or someone who deals in tl at t:, s3 tt.
-:, `.] a ^t1 collldr t pjir the hC] varcl := 1n- sc17'm l i t . T]1at volt �] a v r
r. Y L srC the bel
t elle satellite ecliptic i_s a�aI - -
ttaVel., Thi at V11 W olll V fl r a w :-7,
tc Yt11e ��Ie t r 1+1V 11cusc-. aI cl appto:iltiiat.t9.i�' s"Lltl.
„
tl is
carne frons n1v father-ir-'
tte- 11L_
=ee rate]iite
T 111) I,,,!
�.t'
v. two
had put it
_:1. ?tis house With 1-�n;
vve L'1a11t tO GC c. r
t+
7 ails tC 9ii:itlier =itc .
ti So T 1-1ave..--
what it
a:: Sci - tt-I.iIl1L that. it W011ld help conn inc.e mic- Mote if I Li 1_.aC
I t- ;-,^1 1c?eYe;3 nt; e :-pert il: *l f e1;1 i1-1 ate * -
]have to he plat"_ d in 3 Manner t} at �✓OLl 6laTit l + % .:_r 1
1 c<Lll;1 nr: oa get .
M r " 'That: is ahs:)llltely So; h I I t vol.] 1Tie•aII Qet. a :;,9tellite
�. ^:-•=.er. Pe1-];9ps 9r. it staff I er or someone who deals in tl at t:, s3 tt.
-:, `.] a ^t1 collldr t pjir the hC] varcl := 1n- sc17'm l i t . T]1at volt �] a v r
r. Y L srC the bel
t elle satellite ecliptic i_s a�aI - -
ttaVel., Thi at V11 W olll V fl r a w :-7,
tc Yt11e ��Ie t r 1+1V 11cusc-. aI cl appto:iltiiat.t9.i�' s"Lltl.
- , 1! .'^' t.' 1 A.., 1 ; l•� 1 i. t 1. ,.': � 1. i i = - t.! - I i , 'vii - -1 ` .. . . 7-1
1,7- t'7' ttlat
Jr.0 al P
tte- 11L_
gn or
rllc7t.
T 111) I,,,!
i't y'vi]i3t
vve L'1a11t tO GC c. r
tc111c]lt
what it
the -
'71 T 1r7t7
�.
- , 1! .'^' t.' 1 A.., 1 ; l•� 1 i. t 1. ,.': � 1. i i = - t.! - I i , 'vii - -1 ` .. . . 7-1
cm
rn
M3111i}e - ��TIL'il'`7 4 l r'�r
11 ?l'.i 1': [il i it iii"I7 tI1;
CanT aPt bl^tlil-E Of tiidt.
-r ta i ' Z v Can VOiI aet a photograph C1f i t SO we cFn - Y
ol.i: W&11., it
is i.n
pieces now; rut I :-an get
an equivalent.
T ^aI;
q.et
a i ctlire
of the house and
T w-11 l
the
north
corner
of the
house .
locking
fol site
re.laticnps.
7C�rr Yes ,
what
it's
croina to
look l i_ke When it
1S lll: tll& e' . "'.at.
.t- -
-
et
L yilll lr. T think the aon2. cation has t re Orre(7 t- c! }I -o .: ,=f int
7t 1J t; J s, a C�;.11-Jy f 01
install a satellite dish on th- — roof . Wrd - will
T thin), that perhaps Herts, offi^r will inrli:-ate o;hty. wr=
n.,&rlF Fl JFi-iallCe. 'vt1-at i. :"eCTLiired^
_:. a%'.Vthing el_Se? That will rF- s P t n',own fol' a aou1171 l_C ;-J=cr i;
FaG ;Iii . SO;cu iZe -d Scale; and Voll Reed al i EXDF- - Sa�'1.iZG
0111 i le thZe fI-C%I: t. Of the hC,I Of w 4 ch i can mit :
tC cret adeatiate
f VO i ua21 -re t :=i ? r0(7hlire W th a '01 '}1i1 -r JIi -1 t .
tie:-. itiZ reward tc. tlZe of pert let ille put, It tc, �'C;Ll ti':1
.aC;Ii't L di t to tell V: ii eXactlV what to get IJ"ecause what voil aI-e t1-:11' t:
to lis, that you need this aI1d there is a r eCruirF iTlrnt and tiler
tl14- 'I i i' tt. O, whatever voil WaIit to :1C. Tf V011 7i I Y
'I o k&tif%r f U r votlr i irneaf It that. is what we want tc; 2-1
�:. Y,_ a �: al; letter ;r he Lias to OM -
1.,z, t t & ,
lt-
l.i='ttti =:.5 file tit if )1e SJa1)tS t0 Oi11E :iii that "vvJlli i'r
f - ; +OC:. ti'hAt w i _ rp Set rlow , f Or F, ri-jhl is
_ 1
- -
_r��.. ,^.ft -'c' GJ; -ll direr'} tl^11 .:ll , Ding t�lr=• �J7 _.:r_ .y .� ;T�
F ,_ t1 n %t item On t ie ,,el -,da ;D r, i:C. cf rCLiQii-
'; i:i nn'i at a ppe
Vllr - + = - ? t,
c i,rt s r ti�:�rii i y.iii`;e T,! 1 C;y F 1 i 1c 'c tr',
i.Oli i t. a:� , .. ._ ..� .
In
V,.
C"M
TJ 7 t: -
Cali Call I r C, I I CrIn the Ct.Ill l"=S
Je rawina showiIZCI the el tang an, -I tale i ;,-w
:(")ia
I took some picture:, driving lip al,d do�3n Fir .t ,iultl•
;,I+j- j-n,I;I-, O
I }.I11� f pCinteCI out locatlons I s, t=!l-t,i=-I c.t
_ _ _ _
licrtli rOLITZd and t1-1ad tG�JPlI.^,1 I lii W1Zt�1:- t-1,.�= icy-iOCE'�•. :��_�".
a t_ '�:,"a we. arg- : ,7 -kind fol" the alige of t b e t_ ti .
a1 c" uow Rc, ii to `i With Grand Un ic)n w th Sh opri.te;FriCtz,-,In i -C -,Dt i
- is as bc.^oTm& a iTlich mOl`e Cell U& t... v
^'l1'. :__ i't tileli eVPi1 When We oiopned.
Mit It, efore we Blake a liearina out Cf it +-houcih; I L1can
yl' 77s T arc, ^uncecrned ever VthinQ that vc u-�rCvi3kz- i 11S witll a1ZSWt 1 ti i �'
t. -I -1^11 '. a ali�'thi21C7 eISe With I e -c -Ta A tC; the in ut of -.I-
7 :,. ':t='ii 1-1 CT ;vtz-i, tlZeSe photographs should, r: -al -v h, 1;?' llQllt. u-. cit. a
�r.• - ;la .'Y'es , they h•,) -III re .
ill particular as far as T am cnncPI'I1ed all
,
_},-,i_ ,l
1e:�;.;iu:S ave heed answered. I dont really 11aVe_ a1lVthiTlg. L}C) 'Olt
it S' I Would I i k e to See the minutes from the I sIF
- :'llieii tii '+ Were 01-ante'l tlir' `Ja 1':i aI1ce f 01" tl!r_ :,e .
S r:-. Nrrh, can -vou provide thost= for l,,s?
ala T "vlCl'ti,7 al.So 11 ke to See the Sallie iiiii-1 to (170111 tri
0 1 S1g?i T that ispoc;Sihl_._. t0 T"
JPTI:-. 1-, iiiI!:iit&p1 1:�V-,011s P.F. an l "_�t' A. .
CU gelltlei'el1 have anything =l. Sc?
rel-: 130 t';":er -IF 1) that ; s very good .
we heed a,, of the drawings that. recalls the wl,t.lr a:•.=
1 Via: el T cans t il?lay�ile much of a hetter drawing tl:ei: this Ldytll `:'•
`i ,,, _.,f a site: plan and that looks like What you hav- �-igLt thele.
�lr, rr `ruil Ina vt= a Site plan. lou I7 ave i.i',1S packa : 1"iCI 11 e1!
li�_ .�
ZJiIZ -'o. of Pcuclhkr-f-- Sit- i i= the ")tC t StlCJ .=Allia 17 Sign Wb
'War
cm
P.ac,,-7
�n
.} -Ie Of t 1, e, 1 e,tca- 7 1 hill I r lincl F;e1 _ p . S tl-ice'
j
.i'. tll.jt the ]]nc)c; tlpied hl]ildircr
_ . ^fiat is tl",e ltnor.cupied shell .
Tl,at is the One whet] you drive up ,'Oi] see th. dead f.=: e.
west fares the highway. Co; that f. ace r -i_gllt. �-hrrP
fii ,� _.
-- -- Dial. e-verybody Lin derstatld that? Wi-,, r you riri the
eild Of the bili l diin, 7 t1)at llaS licth- ng On t.. T..
111:That iti w!ele th]S Stan 1_S ao41ng tc7 ac)
P .ti1.4 -.1; --1gn? This sign here"
Wc= 1-P.fei'P17Ci11g t.111S illap 11CJW:
,`[ YAP I. ,.c a e,
-' Thelr 1S I1tjilIlg el Se Other tlletl tji15 111yL t.: 1-r I-
o
a `
There iv'P dre. Th1S 1S What T Want to See. ^.hat al'P .vr
t ,'r that iil,;�p right they
T' I . nCr c, The. WeSt Plevati011 iS the P.I.PVati011 thnt. fa'PS
Tjl
F'r IJQ1: Tjiele l n ll�er t0?� & Shop sign that w,= a1 -e 1'PCf']PSti]iG
tib and in the mid -11 e of the hui lding wit 1 be i -eta i 1
rd retail tenant (P:) who will be the oc, z, It Of tt,i.
`.a: r. Un, c: c.upied buildill�
1 .Pi1GCG: Then, the south elevation iS the rzllevat.iOtl tjlat fa.^.f�S t.11r
-t.�. .n';iii , lct; i]:� the front of the building. Hgain; that is my
-`a;' �,atit. !A) and retail tenant (B) ThP�. ar, all ft. h, ft.
;11_ 7e The ol:e tj;at is f,3: ing the parking lot. This is retail
,_ a -) -I li t t0 the 11110c' ,ilpied Mill ding?
T7 a: T=:i t t1 -ere a S1711 a 10we%I for every 1"t='ta411 tena,rtt�
°4w
the front of t1lP huildipg r ..,..=,hI .
-. H he i.-. talking ,abr,..}.
71lP sc11th - k�- Vatior. s the f1"C1'!t.
*1%m ...rr'
4, _ ._ ,car �,�I Z.Y �� r
-�
that
rirllogg: I til ill,:. t lcw signs allnwPd; right Hrr encs f
i
val; dl. ;_ :. e.:i i_C ..1 :l t. t -•,i ,_.. +_.� .��"v _,� ._., , �c>�
a.:
yciLi
wa,., i.11e": .-:.i 111 W i Lelia:, .. ,
U .7 l:ar�.ni;�:._ iC wollIc" comi- _LI l fes... t1it1 Vaii71iC'C t
i a "=1i7 t. l"ialiCt ilow. I oul:in't gl-alit. 011 a
,Bight hapt�tll.
- 1 ilaVe a tenant. that iS llllna111e i at thi.S pGiiit?
1 we dlon t. have a Signed tzi;L:mt. What I waS tri 1.Y1�
i1(w vc) i that ign that. 1S on thi bLiiIding. 711 p l llllal'V 7; ,37
t `tT Y_ 11Cp -ind b. 7. S1gI1 .
a1 -e .iot u :=,
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