1966-10-06 (2)The regular meeting of the Town Board, cf t;app i ager wus held on Wober
1966, Thursday evening, at the Town Hall; Mill Street, Wappingers Falls, N.Y,
Present:
Joseph H. Fulton - Supervisor
Vincent S. Francese - qus`{ice of the Peace
William J. Bulger - Justice of the Pence
Others Present:
Joseph Ludewig - Building inepector
Messrs. Quinn b Reilly - Attorney
Vincent Kelley - Engineer
Knud Clausen - Highway Supt.
Louis C. Clausen - Councilman
Elaine H. Snowden •• Town Clerk
The meting was called to order at 7:10 P.M. by Sups.rvisor Fulton.
Open discussion was held. Residents from Royal View Apts. (Maloney Rd.) 8i, cd
their feelings on the problems they were having in these apartments.
Open discussion closed at 7:47 P.M.
Mr. Fulton: In regards to this Bash situation, I took the occasion to go th ri
with Mr, Gutmann when Mr. Ludewig was on vacation. I aceised Mrd Gutmann to
advise the owner we would like to see the furnace repaireel immediately. The
were contacted and something was done, but apparently it (;dn't work. First, I
suggest we staet from health and safety angle, perhaps the Dutchess Health Dept.
asking them to investigate the water and report to us on its Some of the com-
plaints don't fait within our Jurisdiction. On the other violations we should
have the Building Inspector go there and make a list of these Led stop immediate
occupancy of any more apartments until he feels satisfied that hese things )ave
;;een cleared up.
Mr, Quinn: If there are violations of the building code, the inspector can
suhm t evidence and we wilt be very glad to start action under Ordinaice and
under penal code,
Mr. Ful ton: Our attorney has advised them they have recourse with a t torr: y
general's office,,
Mrs Bulger: It might be advisable for us to write to attorney general on bo;-' f
of these people. indicate that we these complaint; anri that we .:;culd appreciate
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an investigation by his o“ -ice at the earliest possible moment
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Mr, Fulton: We want the Building inspector to report back to the Board at ifle
next meeting
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Mr, Francese: May I f'urher suggest that each of these people who have
complained also write a letter to the Attorney General's office as well, because
complaints from individuals are Just as weighty as complaints from this iEown.
Mr„ Bulger: Do you people ';'!ave a representative?
Cassorla FW, Bldg. #1, Apt— #i, Royal View Apartments, Maloney Rcad,
Poughkeepsie, New York 12603.)
Mr. Bulger: i move that frst: the BuiWng 'Inspector of the Town be ded
to investiaa%? all the cemp!aints within his Jurisdicion ani, second t.1.1 the
Town Board directs him to wthho!d the _ssuance of furTher certficates of
occupancy an Wthdraw any certMcaes o occupancy which have been issues :(10
w;:ch he legally can widraw untO correutons on the compfaOlt under
jursdicton are made, thLt he Town dftect a communicatc:: to the
Du chess CuunZy Depte of Hea!th requestinn that they investigate the wer
supply to the apartments end the complan's renardng the failure to furnsh
heat, f1;',e are wHAlin he othe Couny Health Dept, Miro;
that we write to the Attorray General adl:sing hJli of the complairCs we hove
ceived in regard to the eases and .he prom;se, rade to the tenants pr or
occupancy, by the owners, Seconded by Mr Francese, Motion Carried,
A1i mes,mber had ret.:ed .:c-,pes of ihe September 8, 1966 meeting1,Notori
nled,? by Mr„ secood,FJ.1 by tor to dopt sublc1 to
:orractions, ioo!:on Unansly Crr
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Mr, Bulger made a motion that biMs be paid s
Clausen. Motion Unanmously Carried.
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b ect to Fudit, seconded by Mr.
The following report of William J. Bulger, Justice of /he Peace was read:
Cwill be typed in Official Minutes)
Received and ordered placed on file,
The following report of Vincent S. Frances°, Justice of the Peace was read:
iwill be typed in Official Minutesl
Received and ordered placed on file.
Building Inspectors report was read: wH be typed in Official Minures)
Received and ordered placed on file.
Supervisor's repor was read: (wili be 'ypecl n Official Minutes)
Received and ordered placed on file.
Mr. Frencese: State nid for .i.-crIspovWlen, how c'ten does that come ;n?
Mr. Fulton: Quarterly.
Correspondence:
ietter from General Servces Administration, William Rovland, Acting Chief,
Real Property Division. to Joseph Quinn, in reference to the acquisition of
the surplus land at Castle Pont,
Mr. Fulton: In regards to that letter, are we in conflict with the County on
this?
Mr. Quinn: I'm afraid so, Mr. Diehl asked our firm to look into the
possibility of acquisition of this surplus
properly for recreation purposed.
uoks to me like there would be 49 acres available down there. It will mean
preparing descriptions and full detail of proposed development end utilization
of property Any municipal purchaser will be obliged to pay 50% of the appraisal
price. Depending on what this price is, we might have a situation of economic
impossibility, and it might be very easy for the County to swing. Competition
between municipalities should be eliminated.
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Mr. Fulton:Some of i t in the Town of F i shk i l 1 ?
Mr. Quinn: 1 think it is.
Mr. `=u1aon: Any possibility we can have a portion of this land?
Mr, Qunn: 1 think the possibility is very good® Neither the county or tiny
of the Towns could have made any plans on this because it's not even definite
at this time. Tney're having a survey done et the present time. The area will
be mepped and maps will be furnished to applicants.
Mr. Fulton: Would this be just for recreation, or is this land available for
any use?
Mr. Qui:in: Recreation is one of the uses which qualifies for an aba;%ement of
purchase price with scrne of the possible uses, a municipality would be required
tc pay full purchase price. Other uses, 'o which the property might be devoted,
qualify for partial and or partial reduction of the purchase price.
Mr„ Francese: i think +: ;s i:he n'e^nt of tills Board that we would be very,,
very interested in a share of this proper yo
Mr, Quinn: The office of general services has asked the Town to make its
position end intentions known,, and get ready to prepare formal plans if we are
interested. They want them with formality and detail, You wi I l be advised of
appraisal price.
Mr. Fulton: We should advise our attorney to advise them what our feelings are
and let the County know what we're doing here.
Mr. Francese: Do you thin% it would necessitate any action et this time?
Mr. Bulger: We haven't got a concrete proposal.
Mr, Francese: We should wait?
Mr, Quinn: Yes
Mrs Fulton: F.).ef IS to our aY.
s.e't tr%r:3 from Q't2 d e. ,. tiS':rc''', 'e` s,:3
sbout odors no_rced w3 t. this Lb.
Mr, Fulton: DM we get ::n .,3tiswer e to the count,/ on this?
Snow=Jen: Po, They eere sent copies lhese and are enf,} on .t.
'ettors fr= Carl S}ber to Mr" Quinn -
Yir- Quinn: The first of these letters relates to the requirement of o previously
executed agreement thnl Mid -Point Filtration Corporation furnish o performance
bond for construction and maintenance of sewer project to serve m development
and, secondly, requirement that the stock of that organization be furnished to
the Town Clerk. As of this noontime the $125*000 bond was delivered by hand tr'
our office and we examined it and found that it does not cover our agreement. (t
merely covers completion, and not maintenance during ownership~ To the best of
my knowledge, as of this afternoon, The Town Clerk has not received deposit of Lhe
corporate stock, As for as the Building Inspector is concerned, he has been
assisting us in this and has denied building permits and certificates of occupir,rcy
until this ting in completed.
W. Bulger: You were gong to look nto whether or not we can revoke permission
to he formed into corporation.
6t, Quinn: There can be no revocation of that. only one who could ravoxe
dhorter would be the 5emreImry of State Vf the State of New 'fork,
Correspondence between Allen lndzonka and Joseph D. Quinn, Jr. regarding Town nr
Woppinger vs. Schoonmaker Bros. inc.
Mr~ Bulger: Since I received copies of these (eters, although up until now T
hove tried to avoid any involvement in statements of this nnture which might
prejudice me one way or another, / feil to see how Y can continue to have th\a
as a matter for judicial action, I have, therefore, requested
the Town to prepare an order in County Court to provide transfer.
Mr" Clausen: The letter to PAr. Quinn and his answer back to Mr. Tndzonho -
believe that these charges should not be dropped. Mr. Bulger pointed out they
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should be seen through in e court of law. 1 agree with Mr. Bulger's move and
moving it in that direction.
Mr, Fulton: My personal comaent is, 1 think that this situation with Schc,, ttaker
was unfortunate. I think their actions in the situation were more than honorable.
I have been advised that if the Town Board would recommend we drop the charges,
we would be opening some sort of "Pandora's Box" to all builders. Schoonmaker
has more than made restitution to the Town, and the fact that they ire turning
over an excellsnt sewer system with very little consideration, it is my opin,on
that this be withdrawn from the courts,
Mr, Quinn: 1 think that the facjs that are, and have been, available to ah
Town Board members since the incepton of this matter, and the placing of the
charges, strongly indicates that if either this matter s transferred for hearing
at the Dutchess County Grand Jury or goes to triai on merits because of representa—
tions made and encouragement given to this corporation by representatives of he
Town of Wappinger during i96I5. I thinic there can be no outcome but an acquittal,
1 doubt if conviction can be secured, Certainly the facts within possession
and immediate reach of the Town Board shall go very strongly in mitigation here,
This was the reason for my concurrence with Mr. Indzonka's suggestion. I am
most aware of what he can do in this situation.
Letter from Mr, Williamson regarding his decliningthe possibility of leasing
oome of his land to the Town for recreational purposes.
Mr. Bulger: A letter should bo written thanking Mr, Wiliiamson for his ;nterest-
!etter from Mr, & Mrs. Ferris quetq the possibility of a school bu.17, stop
eign p!aced on a curve near :her property on New Hacicensac
Mr. Bulger made a m-stion to refer it to the County cliperintehe.;ent
with the notation that the Tov.'n Board recommends it, ar,d advise Mr,
Ferris what we have doen, seconded by Mr, :-"rancese. Mot en Unanimousi
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Letter from Planning Board - V0GitIrng e etter received by them from Mr, Bisoni
requesting them to consider an amendment to Section 416,032 of the Zoning
Ordnunce,
Mr. Bulger: Ask them to have this and the other problems of similar nature
revie4ed by the Planning Consultants,
Mr, Quinn: If I recall correctly, at one time the Planning Board came in and
advocated revision to the Zoning Ordinance for "across-the-board- revision of
non -conforming uses being expanded, The legality of such a resolution ls
certainly questionable, it is the feeling of Counsel that such situations
should be reviewed, each on its own merits. T think any referral of this thing
shouldn't just get down to a matter of technicalities but reviewed en the ments
of this particular case,
Mr. Clausen: isn't the avenue open for Mr. Bosom to request rezoning?
Mr. Fulton: think that his position is he wants the Town Board and Planning
Board to consider non -conforming property and possibly rozonng.
Mr. Clausen: Is he concerned about his own property or non -conforming uses in
general?
Motion to suspend rules made by l'o„ Clausen, seconded by Mr. Bulger and carried.
Mr, Clausen (to Mr. Bisom) Yeuc problem "1,,f1:3 been before us many times, Our
attorney agrees you have tbe avenue open for you to cons der requesting a rezoning,
Bisom: Pm not thinking about myself. i have been asniing about that the
past couple of years.
Mr, Clausen: We have a pc,cy of (oviewing each ulse on ts own merits. s
n hardship case:
Mr, Bisom: The tast tine 1 opckc toAAr, Ludewig sad that r have
on my property from the Lord o Health,
Mr. rlausen: The Board won't or can't mnke a blanket ruLng on aH
Mr, Quinn to Mr, Bisomb: If you want to do that, this will invo!ve your mux:ng
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a request and furnishing the Board with a description of the area to be rezoned,
Metes and bounds description. You might be able to save yourself some time and
expense by having someone assist you with something from the tax maps„ It r.ilould
come in in writing.
Mr. Bsom: I'll have it at the next meeting.
Mr. Bulger moved to resume rules, seconded by Mr. Clausen. Motion Unanimously
Carried. -
tetter from Stanley Ries _ regarding competence of Assessors, lex in frt,ng
tax rolls and work accomplishment, in relation to their salaries..
Mr„ Quinn: Record should show here there is an inaccurate statement. made
Mr,. Ries' letter, that the tentative tax rolls were not available until .Jule
1 C.)w, `ecu my ,own SS'riowleJg•e, ! -,at an appropriate copy of the role vo_ns prepared
and ,ted on Juno 1. Notice o.. '"ic' i"ailabi it'd for inspection was posted on
the Town Clerk's bu loten June 4th, 0, was pubi shed in the W C. Si
News. C«?1'ii:!ie$e sE.a;uior'y cop iuuce and record should snow that Mr0 Ren'
to`.eTient Is ,naccuretti„ ! thlit':. .he Town i ierl<, fs ,:"i 5i_.,, ?e: ;fy th; t,
Mr, Fulton: 1 think the statement our a tor'aiey h8s (made, should U:; made pL.i
of a! e r, e r to t',1 r ., Ries,
;:,Aotion ;1iade by irk` Franc;: o ser:d a ie'qer to Mr,. r 'c'r" J-,,corf`C 1rat;ng ;r
,he _ ,.G . r :rr i jus i'u3c:e by iS1'„ iii;inn, seionded U''; !:r '. 1 ur,en bnd
r:eCe?., was ct l lied o
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Late cor-Lp6T-Ideno
Correspondence reeu Mr,i•' - !{ ., Pagano ,-,r'. 7'Ji
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f! w "I!ori4y ¢.p%. CiI.., ,"• Cil i. .. _. Li :#Tl.::hy i t'. iv 4, C�C� .:or he ii;-+. _. r
,nten!_ resoiuliL`n :n;,cSeu ord 5u Hl,, 29. !r)do,
Rock; i ngt"4arn Perm : Sewer r;,L riot,
',own board Mee i ng
Letter from Mr. Zak, Dorothy Heights
Mr., Fulton: Mr. Zak was here and he left, He missed agenda for this meeting
and wants to be on the agenda of the next meeting.
Letter from Mrs. Oberle: In reference to the need of a traffic light et
intersection of Chelsea Road & Route 9D.
Mr. Bulger: We need the approval of the County Superintendent of Highways
before we can send it to the State Traff c Commission, they are State and County
roads.
Made a motion to
Mra Francese: /Write a Tetter to State Traffic Commission and the Supt„ of
Highways of the New "fork State Highway Dept. and the Dut.chess County Highway
Dept.,, also request in letter to Outchess County Highway Dept, recommendat`i'on,
of this to the State,, Seco; ded by Mra Clausen., Motion Carrie4,
Mr, Bulger: Some of the primary reasons should be established ro the letter—
increased traffic f t ow due to the opening of Route 84, deacon—Newbur oh bridge.
Mra Francese: Chel as Ridge Apts,, have increased population in the are-;,
Mr.. Bulger: Are we binding the State by asking for 1 Fght specifically?
should ask for appropratc i; aff is control.
Letter from State Dept.., ef' Hcalth., Mr. Pagano re: requested permission by
Town of 4app? ager to c;rtemporary sand f
aidr i ! ters for Rockingham
farms
Sewer District founo acceptable . /.. bid from Mr, Lafko for $1,450, and a be
+.. Worn ECC for 12,645, were received by the Board , Engineer to the Town indicated
`_Fat both bids ;i-zsst specie c:at'ions.. Motion made by Mr, Fulton to accept the
low bid of
for $1,450„00 to construct temporary sand filters for
the Rockingham Farms Sewer 0 i tri F , seconded by Mr, Beige? Mo , on Uean ;Moes l y
Carried.
et';er from FCC;
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Town Board
Town of Wappnger;,
Mill Street'
Wappingers Falls, rN.,Y
Gentlemen,
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06L 5, 1966
We wish L offer our services to the Town of Wappingers for the
operation of :sewage and water systems.
With thi: Towns interest in accruing such systems, we would maintain
the facilities on a interim basis until contracts could be signed with
your successful! bidder. We would be prepared to operate any plant under
a interim basis fora fee of fifty dollars (%50.00) per week.
We hope this offer can be of use to the Town Board in eliminating
any addition burdc-n on your part.
Yours truly,
s/ Kenneth E. Euell
Mr. Fult'A: This is an offer of interim service to our sewer pknnts.
Mr, Qu.nn: One of the problems„ We have a previous solicitation for bids,
but r afore we even had that, we herr,, an earlier offer from Mr. Lafko's firm
to ,_ e r• ; orm work on a inter m basis o f a rate which would not exceed the rate
sub:'. tted f pally by a low bidder 1 thought that this was some kind of a
:,a toh'a ng offer. if there is anybody hete from that corporation they can
probilbly clarify
Mot ion made by Mr,. Bulger, seconded by Mr Francese and carried to suspend ruins
to ask Mr, Hankin for 3 clarification of the proposition,
Mr. Robert Hankin: That Ie l:erwas put in strictly as a ,hatching offer to
Ronald La fr`.v's first o f er . `i tr i c t l y on a temporary bps ; s <.
Mr.'s Quinn: My ;r;t conciu; y art wcs right
Mr., Hankin: it's juit a matching offer uric! l bide given out af,
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soon as bids are giver out, ;pent. this will be
Mr. Quinn: This i s an e. =r pi.ovide se
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Mr. Bulger: If we take over env additional lands and are faced with problem
of needing en emergency operator, they will be available.
Mr. Hankin: Would it solve your problems if I withdrew the offer?
Motion made by Mr. Bulger, seconded &y Mr. Clausen and carried to resume rules.
Mr. Bulger: To clarify the whole matter, write back to ECC and state that
apparently their letter is subject to misnterpretation and they should be
more specific if they wish to resubmit.
Mr. Francese: I would like to see a more de'b,'ed statement. When I first read
it, it was very confusing.
Mr. Quinn: You have offers and you can get more o.fers in the future from
anybody else. If and when the need arise, you're goi:q to have to make a
decision.
Mr. Bulger: The only reason I think we should get clarific
tion on this is
because 2 months from now somebody is going to say this was SI j and that was
said. If it was clearer and more definite, when we picked it oucof
we would know exactly what was proposed.
Mr. Clausen: Can this letter be kept on file and an amendment be addec.=p it?
Mr, Bulger: Request them to be more specific.
Motion made by Mr. Bulger and seconded by Mrs Francese to request a resubmil
of the proposal made by E.C.C. Inc. asking that it be more specific,, Motion
Carried.
the file,
Bids for Rockingham Sewer P ant Operator - Two bids submitted - F.J. Lakko
$567.00 and E.C.C. Inc. $494.50,.
Mr. Francese made a motion to award the contract to the lowest bidder, iE.C.C„
Inc.) et the contract price of $494,50, seconded by Mr. Clausen.. Motion
Unanimously Carried.
Charles Cortellino, speaking on Wildwood, asked the Board about the contraci
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for snow removal„
Mr0 Fulton answered that it t only needs Mr. Lafko's signatures
Mr. Cortellino then asked ;f negotiations were still going on for the purchea
of L&A sewer plant.
Board replied in the affirmative.
Mr. Cortellino then persued the question of roads, monuments & drainage in Wildwood.
Mr. Quinn pointed out it had been ascertained thy: developer has to put monuments in.
Mr. Cortellino referring to the drainage problem — even in the hills, we get
flooding and the Toads are certainly beyond passable. Apparently, this
missing extension has not turned up.
Mr. Clausen: Do we know, as of this date, that there was an extension?
Mr„ Quinn! A bond was issued by a surety company. I f$nd no record of that
bond having been accepted by the Town Board, but that bond ran from the fall
of until 1967 and it d Ed appear that it was everybody's intention to
e;.cept the bond.
Mr. C!aus6n: The fact of the matter is, t!e extension wasn't granted?
Mra Quinn: 1 am under the opinion that the bond jrobably was accepted,
hut, depending on the prac>>iee of the Board at the time, there is no way of
knowing. They didn't act c;u `Ie so formally in the past.
Mr; Causen: Even if the Board was not formal and it wasn't the practice
of the Town, that doesn't make it right„ As far as the Town Board is
concerned, we've never granted an extension to 1967.
Mr, Quinn: i don't think this Board ever did:.
Mr Fulton asked Mr, Kelley what his recollection was in reference to the bond.
Mr. Ke; leyz I can recall that the bond termination date was about March, 1966,
i can recall that i advised the Board at the time not to ca l I the bond
Mra Reilly's recollection was the same as Mra Kelleys'st
Mr. L,afkot To hop the Board, every bond you ever accept rias a one year
maintenance period in it. Tiles road was in order, ani completed as such, ii
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the tatter part of October or November of 1965. Thi bond period of accomplishing
?'az, work - we .'have until Marry 2, 1966, 1.1.e,e is c' maintenance period. in
one c" the Boards executive sessions it was braught out about making certbh
corrections, i was mailed a list, and requested '.o make 9iIrtain corrections,
approximately in the month of June. Mr. Clausen, Mr. Kelicy, Mr. Alexander and
mysei- had a session, We compieied the Ilse by coric ing cinditions caused by
one of the builders we sold lots to. It was held because it was held on the
Wildwood people's request and the Town on how we were to finish off the
drainage. We've finished all but the coating® Whatever you decide to do
with the ditch you will have to send heavy equipment in here and you will
only tear the road up., f it is resolved what to do with the ditvh in .'Vile--
woos=, we could go ahead and h ; s :,or.= t d be resolved, We wit have to, and we
will, regrade what ti:4're bo f ori he _ , n '.er ri'iF _ I ?' the t wn v'i9n is us to
,
g brig:.''., off F we > cj us a i dil l,.._:. to that effect.. The
Celli !.:up, c , tCiC `nm::
a. Ji. 4J
o liec };f, ;..+thet 3e"1.+.ne ,,,h re there
were no houses because #'? t ;:7:£' ., he ban f< Liam' on i t , We will this,
We are ! n the process of pu '_ ? i nc tha'( road in now. if there is any th 's l) else,
i can try to clear t up„ The drainage is the bu, Ider's problem. that's Nn
the tots. it has been corrected sore on he road, There's another part
here that t can remember, is when you got into tho winter period last year,
tied in with the pipe not beng installed. The extension was given et that
'ume until it got up to a season hat could be corrected.
The developers
th area are waiting for the Town Board to take acteon and so are the
people.
Mr. Fulton: The Board h:_, got to act on recommendation of Highway Supt, and
engneer to the Town, i '_.uggesE, a motion be made here they bring in recommenda-
tion of just what the Board sa"lou1d do.
aro Kelley: if atan.um:atT, are reLLu,sare1.. thsv Ins e to Out in ;prior to frog;
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eptance, The reeomeanded certa;n things we 'eoe!d like to see done, for
the successful complo%iion of he subd:vsion Ai ppraisal eh uld h
requested.
Mr, Clausen to Mr. Kelley: Followng the recommendations to the Board, i; was
turned over to the attorneys for some way of solving these problems. We wee
supposed to gel' togeTher with attorneys, wonder if what isn't needed h(?ro
jus. That meeting.
Mr, Clausen made a moor "(-) kd a meetihg Thuvsday Oct. 3th between the
Town Board, Supt. o'c ;iighways, FngJleer to the Tovm, ATtorneys to the Town,
Mr, Lfko, Mr Alexander and t,e-er representaves, to resolve any differences
we may have r regard 'to the requirements for dwood, seconded by Mr, Frances('
Motion Carried,
Contract for Raymond & May, Planning Consultants,
Mr. Bulger moved that the Supervisor to the Town be given voluntary outhority
to sign the contract with Raymond & May, seconded by Mr, France/ t Motion
carried with Mr. Fulton abstaining.
Appointment of an Engineer to the Town deferred to a latre date.
A request was received to grant permission to form a sewerage disposal
corporation by Spook HH Properties, Inc.
Mr, Clausen: Does the Town Board have to give approval to them to incorporee
'to form a disposo! corp?
Mr, Quinn: No, no as such, The afternatve to provde municpalwge
Mr, Clausen: the Town Board refused, could ito developer go septic? A
far es the Town of Wappinger is concerned, ;f we dAn4t want any more an
in the Town of Wappinger, we could refuse them and give them the option of
going septic,
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Mr. Quinn: Basically, the transportatiry, corporation law gives developer
right to form a corporation to collect iid dispose of sewage9 It is a buW
in protection for n municipality, to race advance arrangements to eventue!':
acquire the p1nt nd form a district.
Mr. Clausen: L. seems we were le't with the choice of either having to give
developer central sewage or Article 109 What you say may be correct but my.
point is 1 don't thirl the Toen has to give it. If we refuse either, he sti11
has choice to go septicA we obliged to give this?
Mr, Quinn: Generally speeOng, yes There is a representative here. He xeo;
have knowledge ns to wl-Iner Dutchess County will permit this.
Mr. Clausen: Is it poSible that the land is not suitable for development?
Mr. Quinn: This is io to the Planning Board. New York State and Dutchess
County Health Dept, are geared to eliminate private sewer fidds.
Jim Coombs represAting
Russell Aldrich office - County Health Dept. will
not approve ind7idual septic systems in this subdivision. We have, as of
February 10, 166, tentative approval of our plans, which have been submitted
to the New YA State Dept, of Health. That is, they believe the effluent
will not t: detromental to this community. We are now in a situation where
we cannoL use hdividual septic systems, It has to be either Article 10
corporation ry municipal sewage system. Every step of the way we will be
under he seupulous survelance of an engineer, suggested by the Town
Boers
W are faced with the situation now where we can receive no more
adjourn, s from the Town Planning Board, so we must resolve it by Nov. 15,
We would 'refer, however, that we obtain approval for this article 10 corporn-
tion.
Mr. Quinn: i go along geno;--vity with what Mr. Coombs says. 1. This Town
Board is noit dependent on any engineer as to whal. any option price will be,
uld 'there Le the pon7eCoility of municipal sewage, it is the policy of
tli4s Town tlho svr.tom ;::!l!t be LiAt;t bv the rlovAdoper and demanded or
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turned over to the hewn free of charge. System which is of demanding dediea':ion
of such a system free of charge to the Town.
Mo1icn made by Y,r. Clausen, seconded by Mr. Froncese and carried to susperx
the rules to u>|ow Mr. Worona to talk.
Motion made by Mr. Bulger, seconded by Mr" Fronoaae and carried to resume the
rules.
Refer this to counsel.
Mr' Prager - Request for a grove} mining permit.
l assume this is similar to the Swenson application.
Mr. Bulger: Request is so worded that it is open to two interpretations.
Apparently there have been objections on the port of neighbors for removal o/
soil that has been going on here. The request leaves it open to questiun,
The request from Mr. Swenson had many specifications in it.
Mr. Quinn: if it is an application to extract gravel, or to bring it in, you
can refrr it to the Planning Board and have them give you a recommendation
on if.
Mr. Fulton: Y do have a feeling that anything like this we should refer to
the Planning Board.
Mr. Francese mode a motion to inform Mr. Prager that the Board feels there is
not proper application before Town Board, seconded by Mr. Bulger. Motion
Unanimously Carried.
Mr, Fulton: As it is now we are accepting appiiuotions. Can we make a motion
to notify he Planning Board that any further applications will be sent to
them.
8 motion was made hy Mr° Ermncese, seconded by Mr, Bulger, that nny further
applications that come before this Board for all land uses ;nvc|vin8 m�n�nQ
or extraction of gravel r land uFe, etc~ sha|[ he ,flrst submited to the
Planning Board for reccn�u�orii:Jjco. it is a!sr:3 rc,ocnuoendad thmt 6 |e1ter, or
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directive, be sent to the Planning Board notifying them of this. Motion
Carried
RESOLUTION, TOWN BOARD, TOWN OF W'APPINNGER,
DUTCHESS COUNTY, NEW YORK, AUTHORIZING THE
FILING OF AN 'APPLICATION FOR AND ACCEPTANCE
OF A FEDERAL GRANT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
NECESSARY SEWERAGE TREATMENT WORKS, UNDER THE
F, ,O> RAL WATER POLLUTION-LOTROL ACT AS AMENDED.,
Proposed by Justice of the Peace Bulger, seconded by Councilman Louis Clausen,
RESOLUTION, TOWN BOARD, TOWN OF WAPPINGER,
DUTCHESS COUNTY, NEW YORK, AUTHORIZING THE
FILING OF AN APPLICATION FOR STATE AID FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF SEWAGE TREATMENT WORKS
PURSUANT TO SECTION 1263-b OF THE PUBLIC
C-A_1,It j 1_QF__ THE STATE OF NEW YORIS
Proposed by Councilman Louis Clausen, seconded by Justice of the Peace Bulger
These are technical resolutions, both duly adopted and will be typed in
Official Minutes.
Resolution of intent
Mr, Fulton: As member of sanitary landfill corporation. Pressures put on by
garbage men. As a result of this I have taled to members of the Board and the
purpose of this is
a resolution of intent. As the Town of Wappinger is a
focal member of the Board of the Sanitary Landfill Corporation, An further
amounts of money for future proceedings such as the legal and engineering costs,
they are going to be required to develop the proposition. It is the purpose of
this resolution to declare an intent of this Town Board.
Letlar from David N. Koffsky.
Oct. 6, 1966
t\r4 Joseph Fulton, Supervisor
Town of Wappinger
New York
Re: Southern Dutchess Joint G8rbage, Metal
and Refuse Disposal Systems, Inc.
itc^�r MrFulton:
fioard Weng -/0- Oct. 6,
▪ you know, the present plan envisioned for the joint sanitary landf
:,ncompases the following main pbints:
The accuisition of the Travis farm to be finanii throuph a Tor',i
ihe lease of l5-20 acres o presently unneeded protions of th
to the Town of Wappinger.
A contract between tne joint undfil operation and the Town of
for Tile improvement of the 50 acre Becker property via a general
heightening of its grade through the Cepoon of fill.
*;Ive discussed the above propositions with Mr. Robert Marshlow of the
Lra of SykespEalloway end Dykoman, bonding attorneys, nnd it is ou-
,:.orl?on that no legal ifr,adimeit !7:HMs to rondor the project, 5S
unfeasible.
Very truiy yours,
s/ Dv i6 N, Ko sky
Fulton rea,.1 the resolution ho proposed as a .1,ciaration of int,
▪ • Euisjer How long will thzJ of,tion b? ;:orf
Fultont Will be LI;)ellae out at th e end of 2he i5 or iC ,/ear
noloptonco of this by the Town dcf:n send us into joYnt sF30Thr:
Y think we should go on here, or T.) farther, providing we
to go ahead. Tho prices gencraHy the same. Economics acut
• as the Stoneykill proper t'
L'Archevesque: About $80,000 es
Fulton: We have a report Chm:en on the feasibility of thIe
Mese things are fesbe but i think the determination we are
cr something different than just the village and to I want to ge'i Yoi
this Board tonight with the irten'i that wo should go from herei
Clausen: in our discussion with the Village, we stated that vi
• with them prior to any commitment: w;th the Town to ti over • -1,
om wondering, if we have e commitment with th' Village, and they
the papar, it will look like wo don -t follow through on comittmonts,
the nymlbor Tcre hne who::1 statcd th
vair
beard ee ! ing
•;fir-- Cct. ` .53.
if recall you Chet with the i1 i l ag
t Thursday night.
t:;y„ 'iii +.on said this plan had been Carrived t Sunday night; finalized
[i (it�The Village i e)-e3@.ii;ive in agreement with it, His resie sen "
_ r
d riot reported to the Soard. vee have wh i s to
discuss with them, ✓e at s
poHce, and we hive the a s rport. We are on record.
• Francese ; had the understanding that the Village met on this the
tither night and they all 'seemed very hpppy with i t . In what was read was only
:,;holing intent to go along with negotiations„
Mr ,Clausen: t think it would be good practice meeting with the Villade and
J is s.use ing these three issues.
• Fui t'nn: The Village representative was in on this meeting and has
(1st. aed his intent,
lair „ Balder: He has committed Village to the joint action, regardless
,Ahethsr we have a ri ee t i riq with the Villa P board
• Clausen: l'Jh t we are asking tonight is, if we commit ourselves to go,
Fulton; These agreements here shall have to r e made by the own
cern It wi l . be necessary to spend money to make up necessary doeu.......
they ere going to go .herd with tha t no:: on the basis of our intent here u
i`fr, ., Fulton to Clausen: Are you reserving the right " you've had the
SCJ cev lop both plans and you still think you may not approve of the joint
eeht
Clausen: There are other things to be considred„
!;'..
t the 1i i l ..e_;,
,, Fulton: is the only thing tC? rt? considered something !,i"3a i' i
do?
°+ ')0s0 you To to the i i ii:fie and Vii .oge says ye;
in lined to do that way?
est is-,nnM
The costs e * 9t the only rh,ngs involved here. P::ss
%low :-yossibly ail the
an asset.
excavated from it ., iq i he used by the Town of M: pp
icoon a)ard
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RESOLUT/ON OF INTENT
:7-ubmitted by: Jospeh H. Fulton
As the Town of Wappings a lawful member o the Joint Sanitary Landfill
Disposal Corp. and a point has been reached nits deliberations where
oerlain understandings and declaration of intentions are necessary before
lurther proceeding to expend any further amounts of moray for future
proceeding to expend any further amounts of money for future proceedings
such as Legal, Engineering Costs, etc., it is therefore the purpose of this
resoluflon to declare a intent to proceed in the formation of e Joint
Sanitary Landfill & Disposal district, subject to any further agreements
anl legal obstacies or necesses which may arise and to agree generally
to he following conditions, which will be further spelled out in more
legal terms by the attorney to the Town at the appropriate time of final
Conditions: if and when the Joint Disposal District is formed and the
site to be purchased by the District is the Town's property on Robinson
Lane
hen
1, Town of Wappinger will aeree to assign by Contract or other legal
via.ohnsl the Town owned 50 acre Becle.er site to the Joint Sanitary Landfi/1
Oiposal Corp. district, or the purpose of nanitery landfill which will
nlOrmately impro'iie the hand. During the interim period the Town of
appinger retarm reoreatement r Is to all the land area not in process
of landfill operations.
2. Town of Wappinger to he allotted 50% of all surplus soil tthis
oerlains to the total district lands (Fravis property & Becker) as de'cermned
by the distr3ct administration.,
3® Only district members will be allowed surplus soil
4. All members will pay It.. 25 per yd. for soil.
5. The Joint district will assign by lease or other contract Cexclusiviv
to Town of Wappirger, for the life of the site operation 15-20 years and for
nominal cot of rot more than $1.00 15-20 acre ,.b inclusive of the Swimming
Area (both sides of streaml and Travis buildings (to be layed out and agrec:.
.(.3 more specifically later).
6. Town of Wappinger will get (option to purchase rightsof z1!
land
1n Town of Wappinger (approximately 60 acres for maximum of $i;500 per
acre or appraised price at time of purchase if lass.
7. East Fishkill will have same rights of opLion etc. as Town of
Wappinger end Travis land in East Fishkill (4B acre sl except at $i,000 per
acre.
on allotment pH
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1: land in East F i" -t time :f Tcwn of Wap,.,ogcr c4corcises Its
3,r-„rlaco option the ff-25 per yard for soil purchased oil! be a ered,1
o e,ost the purchase price of the land.
At least 10 and possibly more of the 1520 acre plot land leo:ied
Town of Wappincter ,For recreation will also be improved by landfill proec-to:,
bJ1 under the direct super' ision and direct/on of the Town of Wappinger as lc
'1:w, when and where.,
csconded by Mr. Clausen. Resolution duly adopted.
Mr. Bulger: As everybody will recall we have Fosed a resolution to place
f ret class town on the ballot. I think we are neglecting fact that this
rosolution, and its werits, and all those factors involved are not being
presented to the people0 f move we get together with the cooanittee th_t did
ine study and draw up publicity so that the people aro we informed. Sec -t- J
'ov Mr, i-rrancese. Motion carried.
Lr. Bulger:
see e necessity for developing some buiiding codes. I move
we ask our Building inspector, in consultation with our Attorney and Engineer
lo the Town, for recommendations to improve our Building Code. Seconded by
Mr. Cinusen. Motion earthed.
Clcusen; The Recreation Comnission brought up the fact that they would
fte to see the Town Board acquire recreation deeds for recreation. We shou!d
oek coonsel to got in touch with the Recrerltion Calmission on the Quiet /Vete,-
t!eereetion sites.
Bulger: in the case of Rockingham Sewer District, now that we have
es'ablished it, we have operator, are we gong to need a plumber , or SO,T,3C,
to come in and fix it, night or day?
,A7. Kelley: There are provisions for this in the contract.
Motion made by Mr. Clausen, seconded by Mr. Bulger to adjourn. Motion unanimously
carried.
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