1987-10-05 RGMAGENDA
TOWN BOARD
TOWN OF WAPPINGER
BIMONTHLY MEETING
OCTOBER 5, 1987
1. SUPERVISER CALL MEETING TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG
3. ACCEPT MINUTES Sept. 21, '87 Reg.
4. REPORTS OF OFFICERS: Town Clerk forward Tentative 1988 Budget to
Town Bd. Town Justices Compt/Sup Receiver of Taxes
Hydrant Zng. Adm.
5. PETITIONS & COMMUNICATIONS
a. J. Miller, M & 0 Sanitation - Withdraw Bid for Sludge & request
return of Bid Check
b. T. Classey, Bldg. Insp., re: problem with Inspections of Electrical',
work
c. J. Railing, P.E., request Water Service from CWWIA to add'l stores
in DeGarmo Plaza
d. F. Buyakowski: request withdrawal of 1.3 Acre lot from RFSD
e. DCARC re: 38 Kent Rd/Additional Alternates or withdrawal of
objections
f. PROCLAMATION FOR DAV, offered by Supervisor (Disabled American
Veterans)"Handicapped Parking Awareness" Month
G. Notice of Public Hearing from U.S. Coast Guard (9/30/87) re:
Wappinger Creek Railroad Bridge at New Hamburg
6. COMMITTEE REPORTS
7. RESOLUTIONS
a. Support Resolution for D. Co. Clerks proposal to relocate Beacon
Outpost Motor Vehicle Dept to Fishkill
b. Board of Assessment Review term of office for Stella Dlhosh expired
9/30/87
c. H. Levenson, Zng. Adm., request release of: 1. Escrow Fund of
$1,000 to Lee Myles 2. Escrow Fund of $3,800 to Friendly Acura
d. Accept Stage Rd. as a Town Rd.
e. Res. to place delinquent Water & Sewer Rents on Tax Bills
f. Set Public Hearings for Benefit Assessments for Water & Sewer Dists.
and Improvement Areas
8. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. H. DiMarco re: Railside Rd. proposal
b. DAVCO Pump Station - Baldwin Drive - Manhole insert - recommended
by J. Paggi, Eng. to Town
c. Highland Glen corr. to Rob't Grey re: Pondview Pump Station
d. L. Jensen, Tri -Municipal, re: Method by which Commission will be
reimbursed needs clarification.
9. NEW BUSINESS
i 10. ADJOURNMENT
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The Regular Bimonthly Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of
Wappinger was held on October 5th, 1987, at the Town Hall, Middlebush
Road, Town of Wappinger, Dutchess County, New York.
Supervisor Paino opened the meeting at 7:40 P.M.
Present:
Irene Paino, Supervisor
Vincent Farina, Councilman
Robert Valdati, Councilman
June Visconti, Councilwoman
Elaine H. Snowden, Town Clerk
Absent:
David Reis, Councilman (In Baltimore Md. preparing for
Son's Operation)
Others Present:
Joseph E. Paggi, Jr., Engineer
Herbert Levenson, Zoning Administrator
All joined in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag and a moment of
silent prayer for the Town and its residents.
The Minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 21, 1987, having
previously been forwarded to all Board Members, were placed before
them for their consideration.
MRS. VISCONTI moved that the Minutes of September 21, 1987 be and
they are hereby approved, as submitted by the Town Clerk.
Seconded by Mr. Farina
Motion Unanimously Approved
The Town Clerk presented the Tentative Budget of 1988 to the
Town Board, from the Budget Officer.
Reports were received for the month of September from the Town
Justices, Supervisor/Comptroller and Zoning Administrator.
MR. FARINA moved to accept the above stated reports and place them
on file.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
Petitions & Communications ---
Mr. J. Miller of M & 0 Sanitation wrote to the Board indicating that
he would like to withdraw their bid on Sludge Removal due to a mistake
in computing and requested the return of their certified check which
was required with the submission of the bid. There were no other bids
received for this contract.
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MRS. PAINO moved to refer this communication to the Attorney to
the Town for his review and recommendation.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
A memo was received from Thomas Classey, Building Inspector, in
regard to problems with inspections of electrical work. The problem
has existed for many years throughout the County; it appears that
the inspections are presently being done by the New York Board of
Fire Underwriters and the Inspectors available are responsible for
very large areas. Mr. Classey suggested that the Town join with
other surrounding towns , possibly Fishkill, East Fishkill, etc.
to hire an electrical inspector. The Attorney is investigating the
legal ramifications that may be involved and the Town Board will
address the cost at their budget work shops to determine if this is
a feasible solution.
MRS. PAINO moved to receive this correspondence and place it on file
for further discussion.
Seconded by Mr. Farina
Motion Unanimously Carried
A request was received from John Railing for water service from
Central Wappinger Water Improvement Area for additional stores in
the De Garmo Plaza which is presently served by CWWIA.
The Engineer explained that the Planning Board is presently reviewing
a site plan for the proposed expansion and he assumes that as part of
the approval, Dutchess County Health Department will require a letter
from the Town giving permission to the applicant to hook the additional
stores into the water system. At this point Mr. Paggi had no knowledge
of the projected use of the water for the stores and volunteered to
obtain this information from Mr. Railing.
MRS. PAINO moved to table action on this request pending further
information from the Engineer.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
Mr. Frank Buyakowski of Contrail Associates wrote to the Town Board
requesting permission to withdraw 1.3 acres on All Angels Hill Road
from the Rockingham Sewer District, the reason being that he is
unable to receive permission to hook a proposed house into the
sewer.
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Daniel Curtin, Attorney representing Mr. Buyakowski, explained that
their intent was to construct a single family dwelling and it is his
understanding from the Health Department that they will not entertain
a septic system since they are in a sewer district. The district
cannot accommodate them, thus the request to withdraw so they can file
plans for a septic system. The applicant submitted a map indicating
the location of the parcel.
thre Mrs. Paino recommended that the Board table the matter to October 19th,
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1987 meeting pending a recommendation from the Attorney to the Town.
A communication was received from the DCARC indicating that the
alternate sites offered for the 38 Kent Road location were unsuitable
and stating, as follows, the procedure now required:
"In accordance with Section 41.34 (c) of the New York State
Mental Hygiene Law, the Town of Wappinger now has 15 days
in which it may offer another alternate site or sites.
Should you not come forward with another alternate site or
sites, or should such an alternate(s) be deemed unsuitable,
we shall then request a commissioner's hearing in accordance
with the above referenced law.
Of course, should you choose to not propose alternates and
wish to withdraw your objection to the 38 Kent Road site,
please do so. We would then, of course, not request a
commissioner's hearing, but instead proceed with the Kent
Road site.
In considering alternate sites I would refer you to my prior
notification and attachments which include the Community
Residential Fact Sheet".
MRS. PAINO moved to receive this correspondence and place it on file.
Seconded by Mr. Farina
Motion Unanimously Carried
The following Proclamation was offered by Supervisor Paino:
WHEREAS, handicapped persons deserve and need greater
accessibility to convenient public and private parking facilites; and
WHEREAS, specially marked parking spaces for handicapped persons
are identified by the international symbol of access; and
WHEREAS, finding an accessible parking place can be very difficult
for a handicapped person; and
WHEREAS, many non -disabled persons disregard parking spaces
reserved and identified for handicapped persons thereby causing
unnecessary hardship to the handicapped; and
WHEREAS, the 1,000,000 members of the Disabled American Veterans
and 120,000 members of the Disabl&American Veterans Auxiliary desire
to create a greater awareness of the needs of the people with disabilities.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, IRENE M. PAINO, Supervisor of the Town of
Wappinger, do hereby proclaim the month of October 1987 as
"DAV HANDICAPPED PARKING AWARENESS MONTH" in Wappingers Falls,
New YOrk.
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Notice of Public Hearing was received from the United States Coast
Guard indicating a date of September 30, 1987 at the Wappinger Junior
High School regarding the opening of the Metro -North's Wappinger
Creek Railroad Bridge at New Hamburg. Although the date has past,
comments and input can still be forwarded to the Coast Guard.
MR. FARINA moved to receive the notification and place it on file.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
Committee Reports ---
Mr. Valdati referred to the area's recent snow and wind storm
that created havoc throughout Dutchess County and reported that he
had contacted our Highway Superintendent to ascertain the status
of our Town relating to damage from fallen trees. Several areas
are still without power, including Pine Ridge Drive and Robinson
Lane; trees have fallen over wires and all are cautioned to stay
away from this type of situation. Our Highway Superintendent indicated
that residents can bring tree limbs, if cut up and portable, to the
dumpsters available on Saturdays in October at the Castle Point
landfill site. He deferred to Mr. Farina for further information.
Mr. Farina had conferred with Mr. Croshier last week who agreed that
tree limbs could be brought to the landfill site; in view of the
situation that now exists, the same procedure will apply and when
dry, they will burn this debris. The news media was requested to
announce this fact in a press release and a resident from Chelsea,
June Wyant, requested that they include the Beacon Free Press which
is available to the residents of that area. Relating to the dumpster
program, Mr. Farina reported that arrangements have been made with
the carter so no residents will be turned away. It appears that most
of our residents are pleased to have a place to dump their debris
and get their garage space back.
Mrs. Visconti attended the Airport Advisory Committee meeting on
September 21, 1987; the Chairperson of the Committee, Caroline Raymond
informed them that at a meeting with Lucille Pattison it was indicated
that revisions are being considered in 1988 which will change the
role of the Committee. It is their hope that these changes will not
occur and they will remain as they are at present.
Dial -A -Ride meeting was held on September 24, 1987 and Mrs. Visconti
reported that the County is considering building a garage to house
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the vans which will enable them to oversee the maintenance schedule.
There have been problems with the performance of the private company
hired for this maintenance. The Advisory Board has expressed their
concern in a letter to the Mountain View Company and hopefully this
will be corrected in the near future.
Resolutions ---
A study conducted by the Dutchess County Clerk and his staff to
relocate the Motor Vehicle Services from the city of Beacon to a
location in the Fishkill/East Fishkill area was addressed by the
Town Board at their last meeting. It was felt by some members of
the Board that further information was needed and the matter was
again placed on the Agenda for the Board's consideration of
supporting the County Clerk in this proposal. Mrs. Paino noted
that two representatives from his office were present to answer
questions from the Town Board and the public. Discussion was open
to the public and comments were heard from Don Synnett, Mayor of
the Village of Wappingers Falls, speaking as a resident, since he
had no knowledge of this proposal being forwarded to the Village
offices, he was against the proposal, felt it would be unfair to
Beacon and as far as convenience goes, it was simple for the Village
residents to go to Beacon rather than travel to Poughkeepsie.
At this point Roberta Rubenstein from the Dutchess County Clerk's
office interjected the fact, which was determined by their study,
that the majority of population is now and is projected to 1995,
in the Fishkill/East Fishkill/Wappinger area; she added that the
exact location has not been determined, there are alternate sites
being considered. George Urciuoli, resident of Wappinger and native
of Beacon agreed with the area of population growth and felt traffic
should be kept of off of Route 9D; Mike Hirkala described the trip
to Beacon and the parking horrendous; Hank DiMarco's concern was
to keep the location away from Route 9 and Route 9D. Don McMillen,
Wappinger County Legislature, brought out the fact that a year ago
the County went through negotiations to purchase the Roosa building
in Beacon and it was his intention when he voted for this that the
Motor Vehicle Office would relocate in this building with ample
office space and convenient parking. It's hs;understanding that the
County Clerk does not wish to relocate at that location. It is the
function of the County Executive to relocate offices, however, in this
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instance the County Clerk has been given permission by her to proceed
with the site and the move and design of office; he does not, however,
have the power to sign a lease and at this point, her stand on this
matter has not been revealed. It is, he continued, a positive fact,
that the County Clerk will not relocate to the County building in the
city of Beacon and also positive that if the County Executive does
not go along with this, he will close down the Motor Vehicle office
in Beacon. He was against the location of Fishkill for a site and
requested the Town Board to specify a more central location if they
did vote on this resolution tonight. Further discussion ensued
regarding the intended use of the County owned building in Beacon
and who had the authority to choose the site. Connie Smith, resident
of Wappinger offered her comment that this is a County problem and
the Town should not be involved.
MRS. VISCONTI moved to table action on this matter.
Seconded by Mr. Valdati
Motion Unanimously Carried
Mr. Valdati had previously noted that he spoke with the Mayor of
the City of Beacon who felt that if the numbers revealed the fact
that the Motor Vehicles Office would be more functional in another
location, so be it, but he did not go along with neighboring towns
being requested to support the proposal to relocate the office from
Beacon, since, they had no vote in the matter. Mr. Valdati had
abstained on the vote for the support of this proposal at the
previous meeting for further information on the reaction of the
officials of Beacon to this proposal. Now that he had satisfied
this point, he stated that he would again abstain if the Town Board
chose to support the proposal. His personal viewpoint was that this
office should be centrally located and the County Clerk is capable
of making this decision; he supported the proposal, but as a Council-
man on the Town Board it would not appear that his input would have
any bearing on the decision for the County Clerk to implement his
proposal.
Mrs. Paino concurred with Mr. Valdati's statements in that she, too
would support the County Clerk in his proposal since the statistics
supporting his intent clearly indicate the growth pattern and the
relocation would be a big plus for the residents of Wappinger.
Mr. Farina also had comments and complimented the County Clerk
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for his foresight in planning for the future.
Mrs. Visconti agreed that the Town should not get involved, it's
not our "fight"; if it was being relocated in the Town of Wappinger,
that would be a different story. The motion was made and unanimously
carried.
A vacancy existed on the Board of Assessment Review due to the
expiration of Stell Dlhosh's term.
The following resolution was offered by COUNCILWOMAN VISCONTI who
moved its adoption:
RESOLVED, that Stella Dlhosh be and she is hereby reappointed
as a member of the Town of Wappinger Board of Assessment Review
to fill the vacancy created by the expiration of her term, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the term of said Stella Dlhosh
on the Board of Assessment Review shall be for five years, expiring
on September 30, 1992.
Seconded by: Supervisor Paino
Roll Call Vote: 4 Ayes 0 Nays Mr. Reis ---Absent
A Memo was received from Herbert Levenson, Zoning Administrator
requesting that the $1,000 Escrow Fund be released to Lee Myles;
the landscaping has been completed to his satisfaction.
MR. FARINA moved to approve the release of $1,000 Escrow Fund being
held for Lee Myles for landscaping the site, at the recommendation
of the Zoning Administrator.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
A second request from the Zoning Administrator was to release
the sum of $3,800 to Friendly Acura from the Escrow Fund being held
for landscaping which has been completed to the satisfaction of the
Zoning Administrator.
MR. FARINA moved to release $3,800 to Friendly Acura from the Escrow
Fund being held for landscaping, at the recommendation of the Zoning
Administrator.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
The acceptance of Stage Road was placed before the Board for their
consideration. Mrs. Snowden informed the Board Members that all
the required documents had been received except the most important ---
the recommendation of the Highway Superintendent.
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MRS. PAINO moved to table consideration of this matter to the meeting
of October 19th, 1987, pending the recommendation of the Highway
Superintendent.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
The following resolution was offered by COUNCILMAN FARINA who moved
its adoption:
RESOLVED, that all delinquent water and sewer bills in arrears
as of November 18th, 1987 in: Oakwood Water District, Central
Wappinger Water Improvement Area, Fleetwood Water District, Tall
Trees Water Improvement Area, Ardmore Water Improvement Area,
Watch Hill Water Improvement Area, Wappinger Sewer Improvement
Area #l, Wildwood Sewer District, Rockingham Farms Sewer District,
Fleetwood Sewer District and Mid -Point Sewer District, in the Town
of Wappinger, be forwarded to the County of Dutchess to be placed
on the Tax Rolls of 1988. A list of all delinquent charges will
be forwarded to the County on November 25, 1987.
Seconded by: Councilwoman Visconti
Roll Call Vote: 4 Ayes 0 Nays Mr.Reis---Absent
At the last meeting the Assessor had been directed to complete the
Benefit Assessment Rolls for the Water and Sewer District; it is now
required that the Town Board set a date and time for the Public
Hearings on these Rolls.
MRS. PAINO moved to set the Public Hearings on the Benefit Assessment
Rolls for the following Water and Sewer Districts and Improvement
Areas on November 5th, 1987 starting at 7:30 P.M. and continuing
at three minute intervals until completed: Central Wappinger Water
Improvement Area, Oakwood Water District, Fleetwood Water District,
Tall Trees Water Improvement Area, Ardmore Water Improvement Area,
Wappinger Sewer Improvement Area, Wildwood Sewer District, Rockingham
Farms Sewer District, Fleetwood Sewer District, Mid -Point Sewer
District and Watch Hill Sewer District.
Seconded by Mr. Farina
Motion Unanimously Carried
Unfinished Business ---
The matter of the Railside Drive proposal, having been tabled from
the last meeting for further information from Town involved agencies,
was again placed before the Board for their consideration.
MRS. PAINO moved to table the matter to the October 19th, 1987
meeting.
Seconded by Mr. Valdati
Motion Unanimously Carried
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In answer to questions from interested people in the audience,
Mrs. Paino indicated that the Board was in favor of the concept
in that it would take some traffic off of Route 9 and Route 9D
and relieve the Village of their traffic burden. However, both
she and Mrs. Visconti expressed their concern on the impact this
proposal could have on the hamlets of Chelsea and Hughsonville.
It was their intent that these hamlets not be disturbed and the
plan will have to eliminate the disturbance of these communities.
The matter required discussion with the pertinent agencies of the
Town to gain their input and for this reason Mrs. Paino recommended
that no action be taken pending a future work shop. All who wished
to speak were invited to do so and after a lengthy discussion Mrs.
Paino requested Mr. DiMarco, Co -Chairman of the Committee for
Railside Drive, to contact her to set up a meeting for discussion
on this proposal.
A report was received from the Engineer regarding Davco Pump
Station on Baldwin Drive and after inspection he recommended that
a manhole insert be placed on the wet well and the dry well be raised
and waterproofed.
MR. FARINA moved to authorize the expenditure of a maximum of
$1,800 on the Davco Pump Station on Baldwin Drive, as recommended
by the Engineer.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
Copy of correspondence from Highland Glen Development Corp. to
Robert Gray of Barger, Campbell, Gray & Railing was forwarded to
the Town Board regarding repairs on the Pondview Pump Station.
Mr. Paggi noted that he was working with Highland Glen Development
Corp. and the Dutchess County Health Department to determine why
the pump was not functioning.
MR. FARINA moved to receive this correspondence and place it on file.
Seconded by Mrs. Visconti
Motion Unanimously Carried
Leif Jensen, Chairman of the Tri -Municipal Sewer Commission, wrote
to the Board regarding clarification of reimbursement by the Town
on expenses relating to the preparation of the E.I.S. on the
Wasterwater Treatment Plan. Mr. Jensen suggested that a meeting be
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set up with the Board to clarify the issues.
Mrs. Paino scheduled a meeting for October 21, 1987 at 7:30 P.M.
with representatives of the Tri -Municipal Commission and Saratoga
Associates (firm hired to prepare E.I.S.)
There was no other business to come before the Board.
MR. VALDATI moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mr. Farina
and unanimously carried.
The meeting adjourned at 9:20 P.M.
Reg. Mtg. 10/5/87
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Elaine H. Snowden
Town Clerk
A Public Hearing was held by the Town Board of the Town of Wappinger
on October 19, 1987, at the Town Hall, Middlebush Road, Town of
Wappinger, Dutchess County, New York, to consider the Establishment
of an Ambulance District within the Town.
Supervisor Paino opened the Hearing at 7:05 P.M.
Present:
Irene Paino, Supervisor
Vincent Farina, Councilman
David Reis, Councilman
Robert Valdati, Councilman
June Visconti, Councilwoman
Elaine H. Snowden, Town Clerk
The Town Clerk offered for the record the Affidavits of Posting and
Publication duly signed and notarized. (These Affidavits are attached
hereto and made part thereof of the Minutes of this Hearing).
The Attorney to the Town was present and referred to a map indicating
that the District would encompass all of the Town of Wappinger outside
of the Village of Wappingers Falls. The State Legislature, by special
legislation, authorized the Town to consider establishing this district.
The procedures require legal notification of the public hearing, which
the Town Clerk has attested to; determination by the Town Board that
owners within the proposed district will be benefitted by services
that will be provided by the district; boundaries must be established
and Town Board will have to make the determination as to whether or
not all property owners who will be benefitted are so included and
finally the Town Board must determine that the establishemnt of the
district will be in the public interest. The district will provide
that the Town would be authorized to enter into a contract with
ambulance services to provide this service to all residents within
the ambulance district at no cost, or a cost that will be levied
011100 as a tax on real property.
There were representatives from the Sloper Willen Ambulance Service
present and Mrs. Paino invited them to make a presentation. It was
pointed out that the Town has not entered into an agreement with any
ambulance service but they have discussed the matter with Sloper
Willen as they are local and have served our area since their formation.
Prior to comments from representatives of Sloper Willen, a resident
of Chelsea asked what about the people in that area presently serviced
by Beacon Ambulance Volunteers.
The Town Clerk explained that Beacon Ambulance services part of
Chelsea area, however, the basic Town of Wappinger portion of that
area is in what is considered, the Sloper area. The residents
differed with that conception stating that for years Chelsea Road
has been the dividing line, everything north is Sloper and everything
south is Beacon.
John Kloepper, Chief of services at Sloper Willen, operating the
services for 13 years and a resident for 19 years, noted that there
is a division in the Chelsea Fire District, one section is covered
by Sloper Willen and one section covered by Beacon Volunteers; the
districts were assigned by the State of New York since 1975 and the
dividing line is the Town of Wappinger. The residents present disagreed
with his statement.
Councilman Reis took the floor and referring to the posted map noted
that the hamlet of Chelsea is proposed for this district as it is
within the Town of Wappinger, however, if Chelsea is served by the
Beacon Volunteers, this should be checked for the legal aspects and
if it is determined that they are served at no charge the boundaries
of the proposed district will have to be changed. The Attorney was
requested to investigate the matter to determine if the Chelsea
residents have legal coverage on ambulance service with Beacon.
Robert Conrad, Central Avenue, has used Sloper's services for many
times for his wife and thanks to them, she's alive; he doesn't think
volunteers can handle her situation.
Councilman Valdati asked if it is determined that the Chelsea residents
are covered, as suggested by the residents, would this affect the rates
to the Town. If a work shop is held, as Mr. Reis requested, then new
figures will have to be determined if the boundaries are changed to
delete Chelsea.
Kenneth Kane, a Village resident asked if they would be involved
in the district, and if not, would it still cost them the same.
The Attorney responded that the Town has no jurisdiction over the
Village in the case of special districts and they, therefore cannot
include them. They are a separate government and can consider
establishing such a district within the Village.
Cecile Hawksley, resident of the Town for 22 years never had the need
for an ambulance until a few weeks ago when her mother had a heart
attach. She commended Sloper Willen for their fabulous service
which she felt, helped save her mother's life.
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Fran Greggo,Stoneykill Road asked if the tax they were talking about
on the ambulance district would be based on the ridiculous new assessment.
Would she pay the same or more than someone else and would it matter
how many times you used the ambulance.
The average cost to the taxpayer will amount to approximately $25.00
per year for each household, according to the Assessor's calculations.
It is based on the assessment just like the fire districts.
Alex Rosmilso, Chelsea Road, said he usually gets the job of calling
the ambulance when an accident occurs at the Chelsea Ridge entrance
and the Beacon Volunteer ambulance is there right away whereas Sloper
Willen takes twice
Sloper Willen.
Jim Tompkins asked
for service when a
as
long; they have
a lot more to speak for
than
if Sloper Willen be able to charge a resident
district is formed.
He was told there will be no charge in the area of the district.
Terry Strohm asked the representatives of Sloper Willen what is the
charge for service when they use all of their equipment; it seems that
everyone is worrying about $25.00.
Mr. Kloepper responded that the basic life support is about an
average of $202 and advanced life support about $325 in each instance.
Anita Hoffnagle, Bookkeeper at Sloper Willen wanted to clarify the
fact that the Town Board was considering the plan which would enable
them to collect all fees possible from the insurance companies. Bills
would therefore have to be sent to the patient in order to obtain the
proper information as to whether they have
would be no out of pocket money involved.
Mr. Farina explained there are two proposals being considered, the one
is for no billing and the other involves billing in order to collect
the allowed amount from the insurance company. The no billing proposal
inourance however there
I would cost about $40.00 per household as opposed to the $25.00 for the
other one. The Town Board was considering the billing proposal because
it would cost the taxpayers the least amount of money.
Jim Tompkins asked the representatives from Sloper Willen why did they
want their cake and want to eat it, too; why do they want the money
from the insurance and the taxes as well; if a fire company can
operate out of tax money, why can't they.
President Sloper Board of Trustees
Dr6.Sdhwerm n/reiterated the two proposals, pointing out that the
least expensive one at a cost of $25.00 to the residents would enable
the ambulance company to collect the allowed amount for that service
and the remainder would be made up from the tax levied on the residents
within the district. There will be no profit to them and in no way
are they trying to keep the cake and eat it, too. It simply will
allow that the residents will pay nothing out of their pocket other
than the district tax levied on all within the district. The proposal
for the ambulance district, they felt, would be particularly beneficial
to those with no insurance or with very little supplemental coverage,
such as Medicare.
Mr. Farina noted that one of the items in the proposal that has
not been settled relates to consignment over to the ambulance agency,
which means that Sloper would handle the paper work to collect from
the insurance company and if that happens, the resident would never
see a bill.
John Senchak asked how many people this will affect; the answer was
there are approximately 7 thousand parcels in the Town; referring to
the billing of $40.00 per household, that's $280,000 to the ambulance
for doing nothing in addition to the monies collected from the
insurance company.
Mr. Farina explained that the budget proposal is $460,000 and under
the first proposal the Town must raise $222,900 based on the assessed
value of the Town, $966,000,000.00; under the second proposal, the
insurance company would reduce the amount to be raised by taxes to
$149,000. In either case the ambulance service will have to account
for the money that has been raised by taxes and turned over to them;
at the end of the year when the new contract is discussed if they
have not written off this amount like any other budget item, it
would be unexpended balance and would be applied toward the next
year's budget; in the event they overspent the money the Town would
not be backcharged for it, however, it would be a point in negotiations
for the new contract.
Mr. Senchak still thought it would be very profitable for Sloper.
Mrs. Greggo wondered why when these subjects come up it's always the
property owner that pays taxes---what about these apartments and
developments, why not tax the individual. She was informed that this
is a provision of the State Law and tax on real property must be
followed as they prescribe.
Rick Kosowski asked if state law has a provision for a pay as you go
ambulance service instead of taxing everyone.
George Ursiuoli asked if the formation of an ambulance district was
mandated by the State, and if not who is bringing forth this proposal.
It was explained that Sloper Willen had asked the Town Board to consider
this over a year ago and the Board decided to put it before the residents.
It was mentioned previously by one of the representatives of Sloper
Willen that this Town is one of very few municipalities in Dutchess
County that do not have an ambulance district.
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Jim Tompkins asked how the members of the Board of Directors of the
160 ambulance service are elected or appointed. The response was that
the members of the Board are nominated by various members from the
service and they are elected by members of the service. Mr. Tompkins
commented to the Board that if they do form an ambulance district, the
voters have no say who sits on that Board and controls the funds.
The Attorney explained that the Town Board become the Commissioners
of the special district once it is formed and do the negotiations
with the ambulance service, not necessarily Sloper Willen, and
depending what is arrived at after contractual discussions, this is
the amount that has to be raised to operate the district.
Mike Usifer asked for an explanation as to how they arrived at the
Mr. Usifer
Farina; after this was
figures stated by Mr.explained
asked where the Town will get the difference if the budgeted amount
is exceeded and was told that the Town will not be charged with this
amount, however, it will be used to renogotiate the contract for the
following year. Mr. Usifer's next question was would the Town put
the contract out to bid if the ambulance district was formed. The
Attorney stated that it is not mandated to go to bid since it is a
professional service but it was probable that the Town Board would
invite other ambulance services to bid, along with Sloper Willen.
Alex Rosmilso asked if it would be possible for the residents of the
1111, Town to vote on the district. Once a resolution to establish a
district is approved by the Town Board, it could stipulate that this
is subject to a permissive referendum, in which case a certain percentage
of the residents within the district would have to petition for such a
referendum.
Rosemary Summers, representative of Sloper Willen and resident of
the Town noted that this group was not present to be attacked or to
shove this down their throat, they just wanted to answer questions.
She related some of the incidents she has seen while associated with
the ambulance service and felt that the Town needed this district.
This will enable everyone to use the service, not just those who have
insurance; it will help those who can't afford the service but need it.
Although she didn't want to pay a tax any more than the rest of the
residents did, she would be willing to do so for the availibility of
this ambulance service and urged the residents to think about it.
Barbara Gutsler, Russett Lane, had no opinion on the formation of an
ambulance district, came to the hearing to learn more about it but
felt that $25 or $40 or $50 a year did not amount to much, it's a
small price to pay and have the assurance that a professional
ambulance service is available to you. The amount may seem staggering
to some but they should study what makes up an ambulance service and
the monies they have to expend on equipment, service, etc. She urged
the residents to listen to the facts and then form an opinion.
Sandy Goldberg was in favor of the ambulance district since it enabled
the Town to serve its residents. When she has to call for service, she
wants to know she has a first class service to respond and Sloper Willen
is that. The Town Board will look into the fact brought up previously
that Chelsea is already served by the Beacon Volunteers, but aside
from that, the Town owes this to its citizenry and the cost is minimal.
Mrs. Visconti asked Rosemary Summers to provide the residents with
the names of some of the people who have served on Sloper Willen Board.
Among them were: Jim Sedore, Maynard Brownell, Carl Relyea, Bill Parsons,
Elaine Snowden, Bill Partridge, Dennis Lasowski, Dr. Brannan and many
more; Mrs. Summers pointed out that input from the Town Officials is
something they seek and the relationship has been an open one.
Kathy Hamilton, Hughsonville felt that $25 or $40 a year was nothing
and it could help someone who doesn't have the money to call an
ambulance.
George Urciuoli asked if the Town formed an ambulance district will
this lock out any other ambulance service from coming into the Town.
The Attorney responded that this does not give the service an
exclusive franchise, it will be a contract for one year to serve
those within the designated boundaries and it is conceivable that
the Town could have multiple contracts. Mr. Urciuoli had other
questions on another service wanting to locate in Wappinger or a
hospital wanting to provide medical service and add another tax to
the roll; he felt this was a form of socialized medicine. Mrs. Paino
felt this was mixing apples and oranges and did not apply to the
subject matter.
It was pointed out by Mrs. Summers that what they have to look at is
emergency service, just as fire and police.
Another resident wanted to make sure that the ambulance would be there
for those that need it and they won't receive a bill.
Mrs. Paino noted that the comments were becoming repetitious and
asked that a motion be made to close the Hearing.
MRS. VISCONTI moved to close the Public Hearing, seconded by Mr.
Farina and unanimously carried.
The Hearing closed at 8:40 P.M.
P.H. Ambulance District 10/19/87
Elaine H. Snowden
Town Clerk
TOWN BOARD: TOWN OF WAPPINGER
DUTCHESS COUNTY: NEW YORK
AFFIDAVIT OF
IN THE MATTER POSTING
OF
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
CONSIDERATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF AN AMBULANCE DISTRICT IN THE
TOWN OF WAPPINGER (OUTSIDE OF THE
VILLAGE OF WAPPINGERS FALLS
STATE OF NEW YORK
ss:
COUNTY OF DUTCHESS
ELAINE H. SNOWDEN, being duly sworn, deposes and
says:
That she is the duly elected, qualified and acting
Town Clerk of the Townof Wappinger, County of Dutchess
and State of New York.
That on October 6, 1987, your deponent posted a
copy of the attached notice of Public Hearing on the
consideration of the Establishment of an Ambulance District
in the Town of Wappinger (outside of the Village of Wappingers
Falls),on the signboard maintained by your deponent in her
office in the Town Hall of the Town of Wappinger, Middlebush
Road, Town of Wappinger, Dutchess County, New York.
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Elaine H. Snowden
Town Clerk
Town of Wappinger
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