1987-03-12
AGENDA
RECREATION MEETING
March 12, 1987
CALL MEET ING TO ORDER
PRESENT :
PATRICK MANNING - Re: Cooke Foundation Recreation Area
DENNIS LASOWSKI - Re: Purchase Procedures
CORRESPONDANCE- 1. Request for Fields from Patrick Richard of "Raiders"Softball
League
REPORTS
H. J. M.
J .M.
E. K.
N.D.
H. S.
B.W.
R.H.
OLD BUS INESS 1.
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5.
Light on Flag Pole at Castle Point
Boa tRamp
"Money In Lieu of Land" proposal from $500. to $800.
Easter Egg Party
Field Trip for "Stone ridge" and"Spring Terrace"
NEW BUSINESS 1. Lands of Kab1aoui - Subdivision New Hackensack Road 12 Lots
2. Acquisition of Land.
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TOWN OF WAPPINGER
RECREATION COMMISSION
MILL STREET
WAPPINGERS FALLS. N. Y. 12590
MINUTES
MARCH 12, 1987
NEXT MEETING 7:30 P.M. APRIL 9, 1987
The regular meeting of the Town of Wappinger Recreation Commission
was held March 12, 1987 at Town Hall, 20 Midd1ebush Road, Town of Wappinger,
Dutchess County, New York.
Mr. Holt opened the meeting at 7:30 p.m. with the following persons
present: Ralph J. Holt, Chairman, Commission Members Ellen Korz, Hugh J. Maurer,
Joseph Mastroianni and Bill Wood. Nancy Drennan arrived at 7:45. Bernard
Reimer, the new Director of Recreation and John Vorndran the new Maintenance
Supervisor arrived at 8:15. Others present were Patrick Manning and Councilman
David Reis.
HARRY ST. JOHN COOKE FOUNDATION
Before starting our regular agenda, Patrick Manning from the
Harry St. John Cooke Foundation gave a presentation on the proposed tri-town
recreation area. Proposed at this facility is a 50 meter olympic pool with diving
area, deck, stadium bleachers and a moveable bottom to facilitate handicapped.
Also planned are a gym, teen center, senior citizen center and a nauta1is.
At present they are not asking the Towns for any money. It is
hoped that $800,000. will be raised from fund raisers and money from the business
community. It is hoped that these funds will be kept invested. All they are
asking from the Towns is to consider the use of their facilities for their programs.
He indicated that several companies have already indicated that they would donate
labor. and that they are still trying to organize all this data.
Mr. Holt questioned whether there would be time set aside for the
public or just mainly swim teams using the pool. Mr. Manning mentioned that he
had told the swim teams from the beginning that the public and School District
would have priority. He mentioned that a proposed pool might be L-Shaped whereby
the swim teams could use one part and the re~t of the pool would be open for others.
Of course, they are still in the planning stage and are looking at various sketches.
It was decided that we should keep involved in the plans and keep
informed as to what is progressing. Mrs. Drennan and Mrs. Korz will attend these
meetings.
The minutes of the February 12th, 1987 meeting were approved on a
motion by Mr. Wood, seconded by Mr. Maurer with the following corrections:
1. Page 2 under "Letter from Dutchess Debs" it should read -
"send a note to them offering the use of the Castle Point Field and invite them
to inspect the site to see if it would take care of some of their field require-
ments.
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Minutes
March 12, 1987
Page 2
2. Page 3 under "Chelsea Boat Ramp". The last sentence should read
"We want it installed by May 15th.
A request was received from the "Raiders Softball League" for fields
at Rockingham. We should try and establish whether 80~ might be Town of Wappinger
residents before okaying these requests. There is a possib1iity that the team
could use it Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday but first we will have to find out
what nights the Chelsea Fire Company is scheduled for the field.
A request was received from the Soccer League for Rockingham
for Saturday, Sunday Afternoon, Monday, Wednesday and Friday and after May 7th
every night. After a discussion, it was decided that they will have use of the fields
on Saturday, Sunday Afternoon, and Monday.
FERTILIZING AND LIMING OF FIELDS
A discussion was held regarding wQether the fields should be
fertilized and limed and whether to do the.weed killing early in the season. Mr.
Maurer felt that the fertilizing should be done because there isn't much top
soil on most of the fields. Because there isn't any money in the budget for the
fertilizing, it was suggested that we do just the liming. The estimated cost
might be $20. a ton. Mr. Maurer will contact someone to do it. It was decided
that we will do all areas except for Spook Hill. At Spook Hill we could do a
little work in the back at a later time.
SENIOR CITIZEN EXERCISE PROGRAM
Mr. Mastroianni mentioned that the Senior Citizen Exercise program
is getting under way with a contract with the Y.M.C.A. The program will be
for 10 months at the K. of C. and will cost $800. He mentioned that they also
have insurance for the program.
PUBLICITY
Mr. Mastroianni brought in a brochure he received from Pawling and
he felt that we should look into making up a new brochure. The last one, which
was sponsored by Marshall and Ster1ing,was done in 1984. It was suggested that
we look into this at a later date after our 5-Year Plan is completed.
SENIOR CITIZEN TRIP
Mr. Mastroianni mentioned that reservations are filled for the
Senior Citizen trip to Pomona on. March 19th. It seems to be a popular trip
with the Seniors.
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Recreation Minutes
March 12, 1987
Page 3
ROBINSON LANE
Mr. Wood went over a -number of items for Robinson Lane as
follows:
1. He brought in a sketch he made for numbering the fields at
Robinson Lane. They would be metal signs green lettering on white background.
about 12" by 15". These signs would be bolted on each of the backstops. There
was a discussion as to whether they should be numbered 1-10 or to keep the present
numbers SB, SL, R, etc. Mr. Wood felt they should be numerically numbered.
Others felt they should go with the numbers Little League uses. A decision was
made to go with the Little League numbers but Mr. Wood will check with Little
League to get their feelings on the matter.
2. Mr. Wood referred to a letter written November 26, 1986 to
Little League and mentioned that several of the items in the letter were not
done or not done correctly. He reviewed the following items:
a. Foul Line Fencing on R4 was suppose to be 100' and A-I
Fence put in 40' 6' high fencing. Mr. Wood checked the voucher and we paid
for what was actually installed. It was felt that 60' more fencing 4' high
be put on each side. He also mentioned that the fence was not put in deep
enough as it was 8" off the ground. This also must be fixed. It was decided
that the additional fencing would not be added this year but the fence already in
will be set properly.
b. Fencing was to be placed between Girls Senior League 1 and
T-Ba11 Field. It was decided to place 100 ft. of snow fence there.
c. Fix the fencing on SL2. It was decided to place snow
fencing there. Approximately 550' of fencing would be needed for this job at
about $30. a roll. Mr. Vorndran will check on obtaining the snow fence for
these two places.
d. Little League asked for a replacement harrow and in our
answer to them we stated that it wasn't our practice to buy tools for them.
They came back and stated that we purchased the one that is presently at
Robinson Lane. Mr. Maurer mentioned that we have a couple and it was decided
that we swap the one they have for one of our other ones.
e. They requested outfield fencing for R-3 and R-4, 330' each
and we said we would check our future budget for any extra monies. It is still
too early to tell if there will be any money for this in the 1987 budget. Mr.
Maurer felt that we shouldn't lock in these fields from other people using them.
We might consider snow fence for a while but not this year. We will tell Little
League that we will address this item at a later date.
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Recreation Minutes
March 12, 1987
Page 4
f. We need to do something on the Instructional Field. Last
year Rood Nursery provided the snow fencing but removed it at the end of the
season. Again it was decided that snow fence be put up and it was thought we
would need 4 more rolls. Mr. Vorndran thought the fence was still there but
down. He will check on this and if it is just down it will be fixed. If not
the new fencing will be purchased.
g. Regarding the request for fencing for on deck batting areas
on Rl, R2, R3, and R4, we were confused by their presentation. What they want
is la' x la' on the outside to protect the small kids from running into the
batters. They said if we put up 2 fences they would do the other two It would
be hooked on the present fence and on the dug out. Mr. Maurer felt that by doing
this we would have another maintenance problem. It was decided that we understand
their need but we can't do it this year.
h. Little League mentioned that the sod cutter located in the
SLl storage area is in bad shape. The blades are beat up and control cables are off.
It is not useable as it is. Mr. Vorndran will get it and try and fix it.
3. R-2 dug out will be replaced tomorrow' morning.
4. The contractor is ready to tear down the Brian Holt dug out
and put in the new footings and dug out.
5. Mr. Wood mentioned that the R-l gate is broken and suggested
that A-l Fence take care of this when they fix the fence on R-4.
6. Little League has requested that we obtain a Town Flag for
Robinson. It was decided to request a flag which will be flown under the
American Flag on the present pole.
7. Little League has requested two 10 MPH Speed Limit Signs.
One would be placed at the entrance to the Park and one down by the store.
The secretary will order them from Brighton Steel.
8. Handles on the fountains were missing from the girls field.
They should be replaced.
9. Mr. Wood mentioned that the alarm system was not hooked up
which brought up the fact that the doors purchased a few years ago for Martz
were not the correct size. Mr. Vorndran mentioned that he thought Page had a
similiar door and he will look into this and then see about getting the alarms
hooked up.
10. Mr. Maurer mentioned that the lock set on the ladies room is broken
again. We will see about getting a cheap set for now and get it replaced.
11. Mr. Wood mentioned that the roof on the R-l storage area needed
to be fixed. Mr. Vorndran will check on this.
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March 12, 1987
Page 5
12. The Girls Softball League has made a proposal to electrify
the Girls S. B. 1. They want to run a line down the pole by the right field
line, dig a trench 6 ft and put a 4 x 4 up with a lock box on it. This would
enable them to use their pitching machine. It would also be used for the
concession stand on opening day. It was decided it was a good idea but even
though Central Hudson would do it at no charge there would be a monthly service
charge of between $10. and $12. whether it is used or not. After a discussion,
it was decided to put it in but it should be put on the telephone pole and be
locked.
13. The secretary was requested to order a porta john to be
delivered March 19th for 1 month. After that it can be moved to the Castle
Point Field.
14. A request for fields was received from the Sunday Morning
Softball League. It was mentioned that they gave us some problems last year in
that they broke the locks on SL-l to get bases and brought kegs and cases of beer
to the fields. This will not be tolerated and it was decided that a letter
be sent so indicating. It was decided that the Sheriff's Dept. be called if
alcoholic beverages are brought to the field.
15. Mr. Wood mentioned that we still haven't been able to get a
caretaker to open the gate, put up the flag and clean the bathrooms. Mrs.
Drennan mentioned that she might have someone who might be interested. She
will check on it and if not we might have to put an ad in the paper.
16. Mr. Wood mentioned that Ketcham J. V. has requested the use of
fields at Robinson Lane from 2-4 for practice. This has been okayed.
17. We still don't have any boys to line the fields.
of suggestions were made - 1. to have our maintenance boys do it.
letters to Dutchess County Personnel and Community College.
A couple
2. write
18. The water needs to be turned on by April 15th.
19. The new field liners are on order.
REESE PARK
Mr. Wood asked if we should take a stand on the proposals for
the sewer plant for Reese Park. Mr. Holt mentioned that for the time being we will
just keep the park cleaned up.
CASTLE POINT
Mr. Wood asked Mr. Vorndran to see that a set of bleachers now
at Schlathaus Park be taken to the Castle Point Field.
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March 12, 1987
Page 6
CASTLE POINT CON'T
The flag is now being flown at Castle Point. A request was put
in by Art Coughlin to put a light on the pole to light up the flag so he doesn't
have to raise it and lower it every day. Mr. Maurer said that there wasn't
any power there and it was suggested that no lights be installed until we do
some work at the site (upgrade it).
CHELSEA BOAT RAMP
The request to the Town Board to go to bid on the ramp was tabled
at their March 2nd meeting. Councilman Reis was present and voiced his concern
regarding the parking problems that exist at that area. He felt that the ramp
would attract even more boaters and there just isn't any place to park. After
a discussion, it was decided to write a letter to the Town Board to withdraw
our request to put in the dock because of the parking situation but to emphasize
that the ramp will remain open.
MONEY IN LIEU OF LAND
Mr. Holt mentioned that at the March 2nd Town Board meeting the
Board voted to increase "Money In Lieu of Land" from $500. to $650.
MOSQUITO SPRAYING
Mrs. Drennan questioned Councilman Reis about the Spraying for
Mosquitos. She was told that the County does the spraying and that we should
send a letter to Councilman Reis asking that the Town request that the
County spray all our Town Recreation Areas.
KENT ROAD POND
It was requested that a "Do Not Block Driveway" sign be ordered to
be placed at Ye Olde Apple Orchard. The resident next to the access road keeps
parking his car in the drive thus blocking it.
5 -YEAR PLAN
Mr. Holt mentioned that a letter will be sent to the Little League,
Soccer and Pop Warner asking them for input for the 5-year plan. A Special
Meeting will be called on March 26th to go over the suggestions made so far.
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March 12, 1987
Page 7
LAND OF KABAOUI 12 Lots NEW HACKENSACK ROAD
The subdivision plat for the above was reviewed and it was the
Commission's decision to request money in lieu of land.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOND ACT
Mr. Wood requested that the Secretary call Mr. Robert Arnold of
the Office of Parks Recreation and Historic Preservation for a copy of the
Final Regulations and Application procedures for Title 9.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 on a motion by Mr. Wood
seconded by Mr. Maurer.
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Pe ggy Roe
Secretary
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Urey Hardwar,e
$ 16.59
00-06-7140.1
Giannina Pou1ios
Cathy Yacovelli
75.00
100.00
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Reichardt Flag Shop
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Pine Plains Ford Tractor
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