1989-01-19
AGENDA
TOWN OF WAPPINGER RECREATION COMMISSION
JANUARY 19, 1989
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
PRESENT:
APPROVE MINUTES
NOVEMBER 17, 1989
DECEMBER 8, 1989
Approved:
Approved:
Seconded
Seconded
Corrections:
1988 YEAR END RECAP. Including Bills Paid in December and Encumbered Bills
1989 BUDGET
1988 ATTENDANCE REPORT
CORRESPONDENCE - Letter - D.E. Associates - Re: Development of Brookvale Spook Hill
Letter from County - Re: Bernie Reimer
Letter pirro & Monsell Re: Charboro Realty - Robinson Lane
Letter from Tom Logan Assessor Re: Charboro Realty
Letter from J. paggi to Town Board Re: Rockingham Soccer Parking
Application from Heritage Task Force for Hudson River Valley
Letter from Sun Up Enterprises - Additional Work at Robinson
Letter from Martin Wylde re: Tennis Court Improvements
Proposed Soccer Agreement with the Town for 1989
Letter from D.C. Y.M.C.A. Re: Senior Exercise Classes
REPORTS
B.R.
N.D.
E.K.
H.J.M.
H.S.
B.W.
J.V.
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OLD BUSINESS Winter Concerts
NEW BUSINESS - Easter Party
Red apwk Hollow Subdivision - Diddell Road
Swimming Program for Summer Playground
MEETING ADJOURNED:
NEXT MEETING:
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The regular meeting of the Town of Wappinger Recreation
Ccmmi~::.,::;ion wa!:::. hE.ld J'Br"luii~r"'t' 19, 19B9 ii.it thf.'2 "Hi:;\'('n", r"!o'(',t'fo)...t:
Road, Town of Wappinger, Dutchess County, New York.
Mr. Holt opened the meeting at 7:32 with the following
persons present: Ralph J. Holt, Chairman, Bernie Reimer,
Director, Commission Members Nancy Drennan, Ellen Korz,Hugh
J. Maurer, William Wood and Maintenance Supervisor John
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The minutes cf the November 17,1988 and December c, 1988
meeting were approved on a motion by Mr. Wood seconoed by
Mrs. Korz with all in favor.
Mr. Holt quickly reviewed the monies left in the 1988
budget and noted that most reflected unexpended Senior
Citizen money. A copy of the 1989 budget was handed out for
each member's review and a list of the 1988 Accounts Payable
(Encumbered) which included the truck. Mr. Holt mentioned
that we were very pleased that the Town Board okayed the
purchase of the truck from the 1988 budget.
The 1988 Recreation
member for their review.
Attendance report
This report also
was qiven to each
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A letter was received from Ellen L. Vogel of D. E.
Associates regarding the development of Brookvale Subdivision
on Spook Hill Road.
A letter was received from the Comptrollers Office which
thev received from Dutchess County personnel stating that the
Personnel Change for Mr. Reimer has been disapproved. Mr.
Holt will draft a letter to be sent to the County.
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A letter was received from Albert J. Pirro, Jr.
answering our letter about the possible availability of
purchasing the above property. He stated that we should
check with our Assessor's Office regarding the current land
values and if we felt we were in a position to pay these
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This letter was forwarded to our Assessor Thomas Logan
and he replied stating that this subdivision parcel is in a
flood plain and is not an ideal situation for a subdivision.
He also estimated a fair market value would be 5300,000.. ~o
5400,000. Mr.. Holt will discuss this furthr.>r with Mr.. Logan
and will get back to the lawyers..
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We received a copy of a letter addressed to the Town
Board from Engineer to the Town Jay Paggi regarding the
possibility of constructing a parking lot on the southerly
section of Roc:kingham.. He stated that in his opinion that it
could be built but it would have to conform to the Town's
Floodplain Ordinance. The secretary will obtain a copy of the
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An application was received for the Heritage Task Force
1989 Harold L.. Hoffman Community Awards. The grant is for
51,000.. and the deadline for application is March 31st.. The
letter states it is for improvement of public parks
especially those along the Hudson River but does not limit it
to that area.. It was decided that we couldn't do much at the
boat ramp so it was decided to put in for the additional
blacktop at Robinson Lane.. Mr. Wood will draft a letter..
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Mr. Maurer questioned our status on the boat ramp and it
was indicated that we are at a stand still.. We will still
maintain it and keep it open although parking is still a big
problem.. Mr. Maurer mentioned that this year we will have to
fill out further because of the holes.. He also mentioned that
we shouldn't neglect the boaters.. It was suggested that Mr.
Reimer write in his column in the paper that boating season
is fast approaching and if anyone knows of some land for sale
or lease that we could use for parking please contact the
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The cinder blocks and main studs are up and we have
received a letter from Sun Up with quotes for additional work
for the building. The lump sum for additional electrical
work is 56,500.; for blocking up existing garage door and
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installing another one $2,860.; and to grade front of
pavilion S4,750. It was felt that these quotes were verv
high and that maybe we should search out contracto~s
ourselves. Mr. Wood reported that not much has been done on
the addition since New Years' and he doubts it would be done
by the end of January as they indicated.
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In December Mr. Holt met with Martin Wylde of N.Y.
Tennis and walked the courts. Mr. Wylde was to give us three
estimates 1. to fix posts, 2. clean up (patchwork) and 3. to
resurface everything. Mr. Wylde also suggested that every
night the nets should be uncranked which would save the posts
He also suggested that the present cranks be replaced with
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The letter we received from Mr. Wylde gave a quote of
SlO,600. to clean, fix major cracks, and to resurface and
paint. Also, if any posts are to be replaced a price of
$500. per post was given. It was decided that at this time
all we want to do is the posts and levers. It was suggested
that a letter be sent asking the estimate do do this work
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A copy of the soccer agreement whic~l was presented to
the Town for approval was given to us for information
purposes only. It is actually executed by the Supervisor.
After looking it over, Mr. Wood questioned Paragraph #3
stating that the Town would provide adequate facilities in
suppport of the soccer program including soccer fields with
goal posts and nets, corner flags, balls, restrooms,
equipment storage facilities, al as they presently exist, as
they may be provided, and as they may be improved. The Town
does not supply equipment as the $3,000. is for that purpose.
It was suggested that this be brought to the Supervisor's
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Along with the December voucher for the Senior Citizen
Exercise program at Zion, we received a letter stating that
fees were being raised from $12. to $15. per session as
agreed with Vicki Strauss. In reviewing our records, it was
noted that we have a contract expiring March 31, 1989 which
states the fee to be $12.00. Mr. Holt recommended that a
letter be forwarded to the Y.M.C.A. stating this and that we
would be glad to discuss the new fees when the new agreement
is brought up Tor renewal.
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01BEGIgB~D BEEDSI
Mr. Reimer mentioned that the West Point Concert 1S
still \Jp in tt18 ai)-u A fC:lrmal request was ~;eY1t ~,rl I)ec::ember-
before Christmas but to date, we have received no reply. Mr
Wood was given the name of the person who we wrote the letter
to and he will try and see what he can find out through his
close friend who is on the Advisory Board. Mr. Reimer has
not contacted anyone else to replace them if they are unable
to come. He also noted that if they can do the concert that
it is free but we might have to provide a place to feed them.
Mr. Reimer has booked the Auditorium at the Junior H1gh
for March 11th for Steve Johnson's Magic show. It is a
Saturday night at 7:00. Mr. Johnson has at least 7 acts and
it was felt it would be a great show for adults and children
alike. He is charging us $600.00.
It was noted that on the application for school use, the
School &= charging us for the use of the facilities. This is
above the charge we usually pay for the custodians. It was
suggested that a letter be written questioning this charge.
It was felt that if we let them use our facilities without
charges they should do the same.
Mr. Holt suggested we purchase risers to be used tor
concerts but Mr. Wood suggested we rent them from Taylor Rent
(ill.
The boys and girls basketball program is off to a good
start with two new 2nd year college students Jim Classey and
Matt Rice. Art Goldner is doing the gymnastics program at
Myers and has a couple of recent high school graduates
helping him. Volleyball and aerobics are also going well.
Mr. Reimer mentioned that he was unable to get a gym for
the indoor golf program but was able to get the cafetorium at
Myers. The program is scheduled to start February 16th and
will run Tuesdays and Thursdays with 12 people for each I hr.
seSS1on. It should be advertised in the paper with sign ups
at the Town Hall.
It was also suggested that we write a letter to Mvers
Corners School thanking them for all their support.
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Mrs.Korz mentioned that the blocks are up and the roof
is on the buiding at Quiet Acres. She was disappointed on how
close to the road it was placed.
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Mr.Vorndran walked the 36 acres off 376 to the left 01
Gleneagles and mentioned that the back part is hilly and not
suitacle for soccer. He thinks there might be 12 acres
in the front section suitable for soccer. Mr. Rider from
soccer was sitting in at the meeting and Mr. Holt asked him
to go out and look over the property.
Mr. Holt is meeting with Mr. Logan, Town Assessor and
Frank Buyokowski and if the price is right might send the
Engineer to the Town to look at the area. At the present
time we haven't heard anything yet from John Lawrence
regarding his subdivision. If we are able to get this land
maybe he would develop it.
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A letter will be written to the Town Board regarding the
realignment of the barn property.
A Mr. Dick Grossman a resident near Reese Park called
regarding the undesireable people using the park at night.
He has seen the rocks that we have placed there and has seen
them being removed. He states that 20 or more cars go In
there every night. It was suggested that a letter be sent to
Supervisor Paino asking the State Police to go up there on
some unscheduled trips. It was also suggested that we put up
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from Robinson Lane for the time being.
A discussion was held regardinq holding an Easter Party
Easter this year is early (March 24th) and we were not sure
we could find a place to hold it. It was decided to pass on
tt1il3 "fcIY" thj.s yearn
Our new truck arrived today and evervone was invited to
00 out and look at it.
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will be put up when the weather permits.
Ice SKating rink has not had the best of weather this
year. Mr. Vorndran has to get some new plastic and put ~t
down and hope for some cold weather.
The barn now has an alarm system.
Mr. Holt held a meetinq with Mr. Drennan, several
softball representatives and Mr. Reimer reqarding the
softball league. At the meeting they agreed to give up
Rockingham Field to the soccer group. In agreeing to give up
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the Rockingham area Mr. Drennan was promised Quiet Acres. We
also committed Caslte Point and will do what we have to do ~o
fix them up for them. We therefore have to look at these
fields as soon as we can get out to work on it.
Mr. Maurer asked why we were kicking the softball league
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said he takes exception with the Town Board giving the soccer
the use of Rockingham. He felt that the softball league has
put in ffi0DY hours of work and built the fields. He felt that
soccer should take a few nights at Ouiet Acres. Mrs. Korz
also agreed with this. Mr. Maurer felt that this should have
been done by protest of the Recreation Commission and that
tne whole Recreation Commission should have been included In
the meeting with the Town Board and the Soccer People.
The soccer people wanted some rest rooms at Rockingham
and we all know the problems we face with the portable
facilities but we promised we would try again this year.
They also asked if they supplied the labor would we supply
f;~2ter'ials forM a tJ\.Ail(ii.rlg 'for' yo'est r-OCl'Tl~5 arld S~Jpplies" Mr~
Wood thinks it is a waste of money to build something in this
area. It would be destroyed as soon as it is done. Mr. Wood
felt that if soccer wants portable toilets we would supply
them but if they are dumped in the lake it would be their
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Mr. Holt mentioned that he is committed tor softball
we will do what we can for them.
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The tree is getting bigger each year and it needs more
lights. This winter Mr. Vorndran had to keep replacing
so we had Chris Bar Electric out to look at the problem
gIve us an estimate. We have also asked him to give us
estimate to put in another pole.
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We should start to think about the 4th of July
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Mr. Rider of soccer asked if we could provide grass seed
and top soil for Rockingham and was told to put In their
r'eques.t as s(:!on as possj.blen
They would like a telephone but we have no place to
install one. The only suggestion for now would be to see
about making an arrangement with a neighbor for emergency
purposes. At this point we don't know what to do. Mr. Wood
suggested possibly a remote phone. We will have tD look into
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Unrelated to soccer he requested that a plywood wall be
put up against one fence at the Tennis Court. By doing this
a person alone can play while waiting for a partner. Mr.
Reimer mentioned that Jenriifer Jacobs also requested this for
a practice board. We will thinl~ this over.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 on a motion bv Mr.
Wood seconded bv Mr. Maurer.
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Secretary
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