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AGENDA RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 3, 2004
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
PRESENT: RlH., N.C., S.R, lC., J.E., RF., E.K.
APPROVE MINUTES None
COMMENTS FROM GUESTS
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Received a letter from Carmela Washburn of Regency Drive regarding a privacy
fence at Rockingham Park.
2. Application for use of facilities at Castle Point on August 7, 2004 by a Jerilyn
Bradford.
3. Letter from Al Roberts regarding Carnwath Estates - Business Plan for Equistrian
Center.
4. Letter from Legion Fireworks Co., Inc. returning a fully executed contract,
certificate of insurance and an invoice for Community Day.
5. Application for employment from Geoffrey Quattrone and Archie Gallinger, Jr.
6. Letter from Erin R Mills requesting a refund for the summer camp for her 2
children.
7. Letter from Louis Dimock of Cross Court Tennis Club to use courts for private
instruction. The letter says that the Lourdes's tennis coach is running pre-season
training sessions in August.
8. Letter from Donald Stein - thanks for using Carnwath.
REPORTS
N.C.
RF.
S.R.
E.K.
lC.
RJ.H.
J.E.
OLD BUSINESS - Signs at ScWathaus
Community Day
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NEW BUSINESS - Playground Picnic on Tuesday, August 10- Raindate August 11 th
West Point Concert on August 12th at 7:00 p.m.
Budget 2005
MEETING ADJOURNED
NEXT MEETING
OUTGOING CORRESPONDENCE
1. Fax to Brandy at Health Dept. with the water report for Castle Point.
2. Letter to Town Board requesting permission to obtain a P.O. in amount of
$1,580.00 to DiPiet to replace fence at Spook Hill Park
3. Certificate of Insurance sent to County of Dutchess (Sheriff s Dept.) for Bike
rodeo.
4. Letter to Town Board Members regarding Use of Town Hall facilities.
5. Letter to Supervisor Ruggiero regarding the CRM items that were suggested for
the maintenance barn.
6. Letter to Supervisor Ruggiero from Steve Tompkins regarding maintenance items
at Carnwath that have been completed.
7. Letter to Sheriff Butch Anderson thanking him for the Bike Rodeo presented at
the playgrounds.
8. Letter to Petra Fashions rejecting application for booth at Community Day.
9. Letter to Supervisor Ruggiero regarding the purchase of a dump truck
10. Letter to Secretaries at Myers, Sheafe and Evans schools regarding the
Fall/Winter activities at the schools
11. Letter to Al Roberts from Mr. Holt regarding Carnwath Farms Business Plan
12. Copy of a letter sent by Supervisor Ruggiero to Louis Dimock Cross Court.
13. Individual Program Application for the YDDP 2005 funding sent to Youth
Bureau
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RECREATION COMM. MINUTES
AUGUST 3, 2004
NEXT MEETING SEPTEMBER 14,2004 AT SCHLATHAUS PARK AT 7:00 P.M.
The regular meeting of the Town of Wappinger Recreation Comm. was
held August 2,2004 at Schlathaus Park, 136 All Angels Hill Road, Town of Wappinger,
Dutchess County, New York
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Ralph J. Holt
with the following persons present: Nancy Cito, Senior Citizen Director and Comm.
Members James Chappas, Joseph Ennesser, Ronald Friedman and Ellen Korz.
There were no minutes available for this meeting.
CORRESPONDENCE
A letter was received from a Town resident, Carmela Washburn of25
Regency Drive, regarding the fence that borders the homes on Regency Drive. She said
that the fence was put in several years ago and has rusted and does not do justice
anymore. She mentioned that she would like a 6' privacy fence installed to reduce the
"noise level", balls and kids from coming over the fence. It was stated that Mr. Holt and
Mr. Tompkins will look at it and will see what options we have. It is not that the fence is
falling down but it is rusty and shoddy looking. It is not chain link fence. If we replace
hers we would have to do about 7 houses and taking it down is not an option. We will
have to get estimates.
An application was received from Jerilyn Bradford for the use of Castle
Point recreation area for a baby shower on August 7, 2004. She has forwarded to us a
certificate of insurance and has paid the fee. This was approved.
A letter was received from Albert P. Roberts, Attorney to the Town
enclosing a copy of the Business Plan which was submitted by the Family Equestrian
Center. This plan is for review and comment.
A letter was received from Legion Fireworks Co., Inc. returning our copy
of the fully executed contract for the Community Day display. Also enclosed was a
certificate of insurance and an invoice.
Applications for employment (permanent recreation maintenance) were
received from Geoffrey Quattrone and Archie Gallinger, Jr. At this point there are no
openings but they will be kept on file.
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A letter was received from Erin R. Mills requesting a refimd for the
Summer Playground Camp at Martz Field. She cited lack of organized activity
disconcerting and did not feel comfortable leaving her 7 and 6 year old children there.
Mr. Rottkamp checked and found that they were there the first 2 days of camp as follows:
Monday - 6/28 from 9 to 11 :30 and Tuesday - 6/29 from 10-1 :50. It was decided that we
would return her money.
A letter was received from Louis Dimock owner of Cross Court Tennis
Courts. In his letter he stated that it has come to his attention that a Lourdes's tennis
coach is running preseason training sessions at the Pye Lane courts for the fall girls'
tennis team. He said that he believes that the players are charged $25.00 for each daily
session. He wanted to know if he could use the courts since some days his courts are full.
He wanted to know what the Town policy was in regards to people using the town
facilities and charging private fees. It was stated that this was not allowed and this will
be followed up. The Supervisor has already sent a letter addressing this situation.
A letter was received from Donald Stein stating that the second year's
QSY Amateur Radio Club at Carnwath was a success. "It was a technical success along
with a picnic atmosphere." He thanked everyone including Mrs. Holt for her telephone
message service, Peggy Roe for guiding him through all the paperwork and Steve
Tompkins for cutting the year old hay field. Local cable news was also there and there
was a spot on Cable News during the week.
OUTGOING CORRESPONDENCE
1. Fax to Brandy at Health Dept. with the water report for Castle Point.
2. Letter to Town Board requesting permission to obtain a P.O. in amount of
$1,580.00 to DiPiet to replace fence at Spook Hill Park
3. Certificate of Insurance sent to County of Dutchess (Sheriff s Dept.) for Bike
rodeo. This was part of the summer camp.
4. Letter to Town Board Members regarding Use of Town Hall facilities.
5. Letter to Supervisor Ruggiero regarding the CRM items that were suggested for
the maintenance barn. These items have been completed.
6. Letter to Supervisor Ruggiero from Steve Tompkins regarding maintenance items
at Carnwath that have been completed.
7. Letter to Sheriff Butch Anderson thanking him for the Bike Rodeo presented at
the playgrounds.
8. Letter to Petra Fashions rejecting application for booth at Community Day.
9. Letter to Supervisor Ruggiero regarding the purchase of a dump truck.
10. Letter to the Secretaries at Myers, Sheafe and Evans schools regarding the
FalVWinter activities at the schools.
11. Letter to Al Roberts from Mr. Holt regarding Carnwath Farms Business Plan
12. Copy of a letter sent by Supervisor Ruggiero to Louis Dimock Cross Court.
13. Individual Program Application for the YDDP 2005 fimding sent to Youth
Bureau
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SENIOR CITIZEN REPORT
Mrs. Cito noted that the American Red Cross was the speaker for July and
they presented 5 action plans for emergencies specifically for seniors. They gave them
the tools to have on hand for emergencies.
They are doing two movies a month and so far they have seen Grumpy
Old Men and Grumpier Old Men and everyone enjoyed it. She said that they will have
only upbeat movies P or PG no R.
So far 25 people have signed up for the bus trip to the Dutchess County
Fair on August 25th. She has 50 tickets to sell.
The speaker for this month is Home Instead. It is a company that is
involved with a non medical senior care. They send in people that are trained to help the
seniors with basics like shopping, bills.
AARP is coming in September on the 16th and 17th to present a defensive
driving course for the seniors. The cost for this course is $10.00 and it enables the
seniors to get 10% off their insurance for 3 years and 3 points if they have any points.
The course is being held at the Town Hall meeting room from 9 to 1 and the instructor is
Jim Warner.
RECREATION DIRECTOR'S REPORT
notes:
Mr. Rottkamp was unable to attend the meeting but left the following
1. Concerts - 6 down and 2 to go. All is going great and we are averaging 200-
300 spectators
2. Family Fun Nights - Just okay; 3 down 1 to go; he has prepared 41, 61, and
66 bags of popcorn for maybe 35, 50, 25 kids that attended the program. This
is a long day.
3. Basketball Camp: Jim Cancellari did a great job and the parents were
pleased and wanted more days.
4. Fishing Camp: Ken Rose did a great job - 42 attended.
5. Swim Camp: 185 in attendance for 7 weeks of swim.
6. Board of Health: Brandy has been very challenging but doing her job.
7. Safety Program: Doug Haan doing a great job; there is a binder holding all
the reports and pictures.
a. Mr. Rottkamp would like to form a "Safety Committee" with the
person in charge of each camp.
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b. Make a 3 year playground plan for each playground;
c. Monitor the playgrounds for work needing to be done, work done.
d. Have a number of meetings mostly during the winter with Steve and
Doug;
8. Babysitting Class: Going okay- numbers could be better (Martz 12, and
Spook Hill 10).
9. Stage: Twice during concerts a "fuse" blew - What can be done? We will
have to have Mr. Tompkins check on this.
10. Bike Rodeo: Two officers did a great job.
11. Playground: Overall is going great! Picnic - Tuesday, August 10 = HELP
Next year - maybe - a delayed opening - 10:00 a.m. because of weather/rain
(?) - too many days we close early because of an early morning shower - one
hour delay could make a big difference. Every one was in favor of this. The
only problem would be the fact that the area (grass & grounds are wet). The
fields must be safe. Mrs. Cito suggested that we will need to have to get the
word out and possibly have closures put on the radio.
12. Thank you to Peggy and Eileen for all their support and administrative duties
to make this years' playground a big success.
Mrs. Roe mentioned that the West Point Concert is August 12th and Mr.
Rottkamp will not be able to attend. We will need someone available to greet the
band and to see that everything is okay. In case of rain, the concert will be held at
Roy C. Ketcham. Mr. Rottkamp said that he has obtained someone to do the
lighting if it is held indoors. Mr. Holt said that he would be available to meet the
band and Mr. Chappas will also be there as he is working with the caterers for the
buffet after the concert.
SOCCEWAIRPORTPARKlROCKINGHAM
Mr. Chappas said the same thing again relating to soccer-that they need more
soccer fields and they need the current ones to be fixed. He realizes that the Supervisor
has been out and it is summer but we need to have a meeting. Mr. Holt mentioned that
Tim Rabbit called him and said that he would like to have a meeting.
Mr. Holt mentioned that the Town is working on some property on Robinson
Lane and there if it comes to pass there would be enough for two to three soccer fields
there. He mentioned that the Town Board realizes that Airport Park is not working out.
Mr. Ennesser mentioned that he looked at the lower field at Castle Point
and it would meet the minimum requirement for soccer and they could use that.
There would be enough space for spectators to watch.
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POPWARNE~OOTBALL
Mr. Chappas also asked about what is happening with regard to Pop
Warner. Mr. Friedman suggested that they use Quiet Acres. Mr. Chappas said that they
are looking for a permanent home because right now they are at the mercy of the School
District and they don't know from year to year if they will have any fields. A discussion
was held about the fields at Castle Point. Possibly we could offer them the use of the
upper field. We realize that this is probably not what they want because there is no
electricity but it is a start. There are even rest room facilities there.
CONCERT (WEST POINT)
Mr. Chappas mentioned that he has spoken to Roma Deli and they will
provide the same buffet as we have had before, set up, serve and clean up for $393.50.
The buffet will be planned for 50 people. Mrs. Cito mentioned that she thought we
should have a salad so Mr. Chappas will find out what the additional cost would be. He
said that he needed to get back to them as to serving time etc. Mrs. Roe mentioned that if
it rains we will have it in the cafeteria at Roy C. Ketcham.
SIGN AT SCHLATHAUS PARK ETC.
We have approval for Sign Language to rotate the signs at ScWathaus. He
will work to see if they can do it before Community Day.
He received an estimate for the new park signs per the information
received from Doug Haan. For the fifteen signs the following are the estimates received:
Sign Language $2,400.00
Superior Signs $1,500.00
Hillman Signs $2,625.00
Mr. Ennesser mentioned that Superior is the lowest but not necessarily the best. Mr.
Ennesser will write the letter to the Town Board requesting to go with Sign Language.
He is also working on the wood carved sign for Carnwath and has
received 2 quotes back on this as follows:
Hillman
Superior Signs
Sign Language
$795.00
$600.00
Not back yet.
REESE PARK
Mr. Ennesser mentioned that someone tried to take down the gate at Reese
Park and that the Central Hudson lock had been disturbed. He said that he has contacted
Central Hudson to check this out.
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He has also called Craig O'Donnell for the cement work at Reese Park
pavilion and his mason is busy at the moment.
The maintenance men have also been doing a good job keeping Reese
Park cleaned up.
BOAT RAMP
Mr. Ennesser mentioned that the guys have been doing a good job with the
docks. They have been checking the cables to make sure they don't come loose. There is
one bolt that is coming loose because of the undulation but it is one that has not been
touch for the duration it has been on the wall. We might have to go and reset that in the
fall.
CARNWATH
This Thursday there is a Greenway meeting and he will be taking a group
down to Carnwath to look at the trails per the request of Supervisor Ruggiero. We also
have a ramble set for 2 weekends in September and Mary Schmalz has Carnwath on the
tour and two of the Greenway people will be taking people through the history of the site.
HUDSON RIVER PADDLE
The "Paddle" that was held July 10th had 31 paddlers come in from
Albany. They camped overnight at Temple field and they had entertainment all day.
There was an average of about 200 people there for the day. People came and went all
day. It was a good day.
WHITES CORNERS
Mr. Ennesser mentioned that he had been in to Town Hall to check on the
property at White's Corners and found out that the road that is being built is a Town road.
The road is being put in for 2 wells. The only thing that can be done there is to put
benches along the creek for passive recreation. We were under the impression that
recreation was to receive land there for recreation purposes. What happened to this land?
Did it ever get turned over to recreation and if so how much land?
HALLOWEEN
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Mrs. Korz mentioned that she has sent out letters to the various businesses
requesting donations for the Halloween Party. She will be following up with phone
calls. She had contacted Kevin Gough for the entertainment and he is free for Saturday
at 2:00 p.m. and he said his charge will be $300.00. The recreation guide has Sunday,
October 30th and the 30th is a Saturday. Since Halloween is on the Sunday, a discussion
took place regarding when we should hold the event and it was decided to hold it the
Sunday before Halloween on October 24th. Some felt that it would be too much to have it
on Halloween and then have the children go out trick or treating the same day. Mrs.
Korz will contact Mr. Gough to see ifhe is available that date.
TENNIS
Mrs. Korz mentioned that she has spoken to Barry Casowitz regarding the
tennis program and all is going well but they weren't able to get the tournament going
this year. He mentioned that Steve Mintz worked out well helping with the program.
PLAYGROUND PROGRAM
Mrs. Korz said that she kept in touch with the directors at Martz Field and
everything seemed to run okay. She mentioned that the parents this year were overly
concerned with safety and security. Mrs. Cito mentioned that she thinks that the
playground survey should be given out early in the program so that parents will have time
to fill it out. She also indicated that the attendance dwindles as the summer progresses.
It was overwhelmingly agreed that Mr. Rottkamp has done an
outstanding job with the program.
The summer playground picnic will be held on August lOth at Schlathaus
Park. Mr. Holt has made arrangements with Super Stop & Shop for 350 hot dogs,
hamburgers and rolls, 450 cans of soda 12 watermelons and 5 cases of water. If anyone
is available to help they are welcome to come and help.
COMMISSION IDENTIFICATIONS
It was mentioned that the Commission Members should have some type of
LD. so that when they visit the playgrounds there is no question who they are. Also on
two occasions Mr. Chappas and Mr. Holt have come across people using the soccer fields
and tennis courts who have not put in a formal request and they felt that they should have
some LD. when approaching them. Mrs. Roe will check with the Supervisor's office
about having LD.'s made.
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COMMUNITY DA Y
Mr. Ennesser mentioned that we are all set with the trophies for the
parade. They have been ordered and should be delivered the week of August 23rd. Mr.
Ennesser asked about the Certificates for the parade and it was decided that they will be
only sent to the Police agencies.
On Saturday we will just have the rides, music and fireworks at dusk.
There will also be a 9/11 ceremony at 7:30 p.m. with a color guard etc. We have decided
to ask the inflatable rides for a share in the profit and we are hoping that we will get 25%
of the profit from the Rotary for the other rides.
ROBINSON LANE/LITTLE LEAGUE
Mr. Ennesser asked about the old fencing that was removed at one of the
fields and asked about using it at Rockingham. Mr. Holt said that when they removed the
fence they left the old cement on the poles and that will have to be knocked off each of
the poles before we can do anything with it. Mr. Ennesser said that he would see ifhe
could get someone to do that for us.
Mr. Ennesser also asked about the status of the signs for the fences and
Mr. Holt said that we are not doing well at all. He said that he thinks that we set the
target too high. We are scheduled to have a meeting on this on Thursday at 10:00 a.m. at
Schlathaus Park.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Mr. Holt noted the following:
1. He mentioned that he wants to look at the building at Quiet Acres and said
that it was totally inadequate. It is much too small.
2. The Senior Picnic that was run by the County was not good at all. The food
was not cooked and the cookers broke down. Mrs. Cito and Mr. Holt met
with John Beale of the County and they expressed to him their
disappointment.
3. He mentioned that he spoke with Supervisor Ruggiero regarding the
appointment of Gary Trudell to the Commission/Committee. We really need
someone as soon as possible since we are two members short.
4. When we started to use Carnwath there were pews in the Mansion that the
seminarians used so we had the guys put them in the carriage house to get
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them out of the way. Now we have to get rid of them so we have had several
people look at them and the best advice we received was to get rid of them.
We will go to the Supervisor to get direction on what to do with them.
5. We are trying to get in touch with Craig O'Donnell to start working on the
apartment for the Administration Building.
6. Since we have had two people leave the Commission/Committee recently we
are looking to switching assignments. We will be doing this in the near
future.
7. We will be doing the budget very soon so everyone is asked to get their ideas
in as soon as possible.
the month).
The next meeting will be held on September 14th (the second Tuesday of
The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 on a motion by Mr. Friedman
seconded by Mr. Ennesser.
Peggy Roe
Secretary
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