2004-10-26
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
October 26, 2004
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Agenda
Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals
MEETING DATE: October 26, 2004
TIME: 7:30 PM
Town Hall
20 Middlebush Road
Wappinger Falls, NY
Approve minutes for September 28, 2004.
Approve minutes for October 13, 2004.
Public Hearing:
Chelsea Rid2e. LLC
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-29F.(2)(a) of District Regulations in an NB
Zoning District.
- Where a front yard setback of 25 feet is reQuired, the applicant is proposing a front
yard setback of 10 feet to allow for a freestandin2 si2n. thus reQuestin2 a variance of
15 feet.
The property is located on 1-8 Chelsea Rid2e Mall and is identified as Tax Grid No.
6056-02-635539 in the Town of Wappinger.
04- 7244
Frank & Elsa Nicodemus/Mid-Hudson Castle
\..,. -Seeking an area variance of Section 240-29F.(2)(a) of District Regulations in an CC
Zoning District.
- Where a front yard setback of 25 feet is reQuired, the applicant is proposing a front
yard setback of 0 feet to allow for a freestandin2 si2n. thus reQUestin2 a variance of
25 feet to allow the si2n to be placed in the DOT ri2ht of way.
- Where a sign may not exceed 25 square feet in size, the applicant is proposin2 a
double faced free standin2 li2hted si2n in the size of 45 SQuare feet, thus reQUestin2 a
variance of 20 sQuare feet.
The property is located on 1090 Route 376 and is identified as Tax Grid No. 6358-01-
296627 in the Town of Wappinger.
04-7245
Auto Ele2ance
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70A of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where a minimum lot area of 2 acres is reQuired, the applicant is proposing a lot size
of .32 acres. thus reQUestin2 a variance of 1.68 acres.
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-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70C of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where the location of overhead doors shall not face any street, the applicant is
proposing the doors on the existinf! buildinf! and the proposed buildinf! to stay. thus
reQuestinf! a waiver on this variance.
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70G of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where the location of a repair f!araf!e shall not be permitted within 200 feet of a
place of worship, the applicant is proposing that the buildinf! alreadv exits. thus
reQuestinf! a waiver on this variance.
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where the minimum of 75 feet to a state hif!hwav is required, the applicant can
provide 6.8 feet that currentlv exists, thus reQuestinf! a variance of 68.4 feet.
The property is located on 3 Marlorville Road and is identified as Tax Grid No. 6157-
01-073649 in the Town of Wappinger.
Discussions:
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Appeal No. 04-7239
Lucien & Linda Cicif!line
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of District Regulations in an R-l 0 Zoning
District.
- Where a side yard setback of 12 feet is required, the applicant is proposing a side yard
setback of 2 feet on each side to allow for a 26 X 40 foot 2-car f!araf!e. thus reQuestinf!
a variance of 10 feet.
- Where a rear yard setback of 25 feet is required, the applicant is proposing a rear
yard setback of 10 feet to allow for a 26 X 40 foot 2-car f!araf!e. thus reQuestinf! a
variance of 15 feet.
The property is located on 376 River Road South and is identified as Tax Grid No.
5956-12-926552 in the Town of Wappinger.
00-7068-04
Gasland Petroleum Co. - To revisit application of Real Holding Corp. The property is
located on Route 9 & Old Hopewell Road and is identified as Tax Grid No. 6157-02-
610544 in the Town of Wappinger.
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October 26, 2004
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Amended on October 25, 2004
Agenda
Town of Wappinger Zoning Board of Appeals
MEETING DATE: October 26, 2004
TIME: 7:30 PM
Town Hall
20 Middlebush Road
Wappinger Falls, NY
Approve minutes for September 28, 2004.
Approve minutes for October 13, 2004.
Public Hearing:
MINUTES
APPROVED
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Chelsea Rid2e. LLC
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-29F.(2)(a) of District Regulations in an NB
Zoning District.
- Where a front yard setback of 25 feet is required, the applicant is proposing a front
yard setback of 10 feet to allow for a freestandin2 si2n. thus reQUestin2 a variance of
15 feet.
The property is located on 1-8 Chelsea Rid2e Mall and is identified as Tax Grid No.
6056-02-635539 in the Town of Wappinger.
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04- 7244
Frank & Elsa Nicodemus/Mid-Hudson Castle
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-29F.(2)(a) of District Regulations in an CC
Zoning District.
- Where a front yard setback of 25 feet is reQuired, the applicant is proposing a front
yard setback of 0 feet to allow for a freestandin2 si2n. thus reQUestin2 a variance of
25 feet to allow the si2n to be placed in the DOT ri2ht of way.
- Where a sign may not exceed 25 square feet in size, the applicant is proposin2 a
double faced free standin2 li2hted si2n in the size of 45 square feet, thus reQUestin2 a
variance of 20 square feet.
The property is located on 1090 Route 376 and is identified as Tax Grid No. 6358-01-
296627 in the Town of Wappinger.
04-7245
Auto Ele2ance
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70A of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where a minimum lot area of 2 acres is required, the applicant is proposing a lot size
of .32 acres. thus reQUestin2 a variance of 1.68 acres.
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Mr. Warren:
Mr. diPiemo:
Vote:
Mr. Warren:
Mr. diPiemo:
Vote:
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Motion to approve Minutes for September 28, 2004.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Motion to approve Site Minutes for October 13, 2004.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Chelsea Ridl!:e. LLC
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-29F.(2)(a) of District Regulations in an NB
Zoning District.
- Where a front yard setback of 25 feet is reauired, the applicant is proposing a front
yard setback of 10 feet to allow for a freestandinl!: sil!:D. thus reauestinl!: a variance of
15 feet.
The property is located on 1-8 Chelsea Ridl!:e Mall and is identified as Tax Grid No.
6056-02-635539 in the Town of Wappinger.
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Mr. diPierno:
Mr. Warren:
Vote:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mrs. Roberti:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. Leery:
Mr. Fanuele:
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Motion to open the public hearing.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Are the mailings in order?
Yes.
Swore in the applicant.
Scott Leery, Great American Signs. We are proposing an
illuminated sign within sign regulations, approximately 4 foot by 6
Y2 feet. We have drawings and identifications as to where it will be
placed. Because of the elevations of the property we are asking to
have it moved closer to Route 9D in order to gain some visibility.
This will also minimize the amount of property used for this sign.
Its location is going to be next to where it was originally approved
by the planning board in 1981.
We received a letter from the DOT and they wrote that this will have
no impact to the State Highway. We also received a letter from a
neighbor across the street who objected to it. Does anyone on the
board have a comment in the placing ofthis sign?
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Mr. diPiemo:
Mr. Leery:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. diPierno:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Vote:
Mr. diPierno:
Mr. Warren:
Roll Call:
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Is the sign that was previously approved there?
Actually there was a sign there many years ago that wasn't on the
plan or in the location specified on the plan. That sign is no longer
there. It was set back further on the property and we want to follow
more closely to what was originally approved.
Does anyone in the audience have a comment or question? Hearing
none. For the record we did do a site visit on this property.
Motion to close the public hearing.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Motion to grant the variance. It will not be detrimental to the
surrounding properties. It will not create an undesirable affect,
there are alternatives, it is not substantial and it is self-created.
Second the motion.
Mr. Warren: Aye.
Mr. diPiemo: Aye.
Mr. DellaCorte: Aye.
Mr. Fanuele: Aye.
04-7244
Frank & Elsa Nicodemus/Mid-Hudson Castle
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-29F.(2)(a) of District Regulations in a CC
Zoning District.
- Where a front yard setback of 25 feet is required, the applicant is proposing a front
yard setback of 0 feet to allow for a freestandine: sie:n. thus reQuestine: a variance of
25 feet to allow the sie:n to be placed in the DOT rie:ht of way.
- Where a sign may not exceed 25 square feet in size, the applicant is proposine: a
double faced free standine: lie:hted sie:n in the size of 45 square feet, thus reQuestine: a
variance of 20 square feet.
The property is located on 1090 Route 376 and is identified as Tax Grid No. 6358-01-
296627 in the Town of Wappinger.
Mr. diPierno:
Mr. Warren:
Vote:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mrs. Roberti:
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Motion to open the public hearing.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Are the mailings in order?
Yes.
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Zoning Board of Appeals
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Mr. Fanuele:
Mrs. Nicodemus:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. diPiemo:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. diPierno:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Vote:
Mr. diPierno:
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Mr. Warren:
Roll Call:
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Swore in the applicant.
This building has a huge setback from the road. We need a sign to
allow people to see what's there in the building and what's going on
there. We have needed a sign for a good number of years. The DOT
has a 40 foot setback so if! go in another 25 feet, I'm offthe road 65
feet. So even with a zero setback I would still be 40 feet off the
road where cars drive 50 mph.
Does anyone on the board have a question or comment?
We also did a site inspection here.
Is there anyone in the audience with a question or comment?
Hearing none.
Motion to close the public hearing.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Motion to grant the variance. This will not be undesirable or
detrimental to nearby properties. This is substantial and is self
created but should have no adverse effect on the area. The
condition is that the sign be placed entirely on your property and
not on the DOT ROW.
Second the motion.
Mr. Warren: Aye.
Mr. diPiemo: Aye.
Mr. DellaCorte: Aye.
Mr. Fanuele: Aye.
04-7245
Auto Elel!ance
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70A of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where a minimum lot area of 2 acres is required, the applicant is proposing a lot size
of .32 acres. thus reQuestinl! a variance of 1.68 acres.
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70C of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where the location of overhead doors shall not face anv street, the applicant is
proposing the doors on the existinl! buildinl! and the proposed buildinl! to stav. thus
reQuestinl! a waiver on this variance.
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Zoning Board of Appeals
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-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-70G of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where the location of a repair 2ara2e shall not be permitted within 200 feet of a
place of worship, the applicant is proposing that the buildin2 already exits. thus
reqUestin2 a waiver on this variance.
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of District Regulations in an HM Zoning
District.
- Where the minimum of 75 feet to a state hi2hwav is required, the applicant can
provide 6.8 feet that currently exists, thus reqUestin2 a variance of 68.4 feet.
The property is located on 3 Marlorville Road and is identified as Tax Grid No. 6157-
01-073649 in the Town of Wappinger.
Present:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. Cappelli:
Mr. Fanuele:
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Mrs. Roberti:
Mr. Cappelli:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. Cappelli:
Mrs. Lukianoff:
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Mr. Fanuele:
Al Cappelli - Architect
Glen Castelli - Owner
You don't have a Route 9D address?
No. The address id Marlorville Road
Swore in the applicant. Are the mailings in order?
Yes.
My client is looking to expand his business facility. The house next
door had a fire a short time ago and we are looking to remove the
house and build an addition that would be smaller than the existing
house. We will be improving the overall green space, the setbacks,
the parking, the fenced area, the paving and overall appearance. The
variances that we are seeking are basically pre-exiting issues to the
exiting property. The doors facing 9D will remain and any new
doors will be in the rear of the property.
This is a non-conforming lot. The location of the doors and the
church across the street and the distance are all pre-exiting to
zoning. My question is do I need a variance for the addition that is
going in now?
I went from the closest point which is the existing building and I am
stepping back the new addition from that point. So then I went with
the distance to the existing part which is closer.
I think the 75 feet can cover both sites so if you grant the variance
you could say it's for both buildings.
What's the new buildings setback?
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Zoning Board of Appeals
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Mr. Cappelli:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. Besset:
Mr. Conklin:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. Cappelli:
Mr. DellaCorte:
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Mr. Castelli:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Mr. diPierno:
Mr. Warren:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Mr. Castelli:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. Castelli:
Mr. DellaCorte:
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It is 12 feet to the porch and 16 feet to the actual building.
Does anyone in the audience have any comments for or against?
Mr. Besset, 2369 Route 9D. I'm next door and I'm not opposed to
it. I am happy with the way it will look.
Charles Conklin, 2357 Route 9D. They are good neighbors and I
have no objections.
Does anyone on the board have any comments? The only question
that really came up was the doors that face 9D. That there is too
much activity there and it's so close to the road. We don't want to
have any activity there and we want the doors to remain closed.
That was brought to my attention this past week and the owner has
since submitted a letter to this board hopefully to address those
concerns. He is spilling over into the street and once he builds out
he will spray paint in the rear as well as rinsing the cars.
I would also like to see the doors kept closed except when moving
cars in and out.
In the summertime it gets extremely hot in there and we really need
the air movement for ventilation.
I go by 2 or 3 times a day and they are almost always open.
Do you need both ofthem open?
The main reason is for ventilation.
Do you have equipment to clean the environment?
It's not for paint fumes it is open for the dust.
Do you need state approval?
No I am grandfathered. I had no room before but I would like to put
in an EP A booth in and right now I have no way of doing that.
Today for example you had a car half in and half out. It's very
unappealing. The neighbors don't seem to care but....
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Zoning Board of Appeals
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Mr. Castelli:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Mr. Castelli:
Mr. Fanuele:
Mr. diPierno:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Vote:
Mr. diPierno:
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Mr. Warren:
Roll Call:
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Another thing too from my point is that a lot of people don't even
know we are a body shop. Our sign is small but they see us working
on nice cars and that draws them in.
Are you also selling cars there?
No, only my personal cars. Once we add on we can work in the rear.
Anyone else? Hearing none.
Motion to close the public hearing.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Motion to grant the four variances with the following conditions.
We are putting restrictions on the work in the front. All car
washing and repair or painting will be done only in the rear
subject to Mr. Castelli's letter. There are alternatives but it is
not detrimental to the neighborhood according to his neighbors.
There will be no substantial change to the character of the
neighborhood since the business is already there. It is self-
created but will cause no adverse affects and he is making this
more conforming.
Second the motion.
Mr. Warren: Aye.
Mr. diPierno: Aye.
Mr. DellaCorte: Aye.
Mr. Fanuele: Aye.
Appeal No. 04-7239
Lucien & Linda Cicie:line
-Seeking an area variance of Section 240-37 of District Regulations in an R-IO Zoning
District.
- Where a side yard setback of 12 feet is required, the applicant is proposing a side
yard setback of 2 feet on each side to allow for a 26 X 40 foot 2-car e:arae:e. thus
reQuestine: a variance of 10 feet.
- Where a rear yard setback of 25 feet is required, the applicant is proposing a rear
yard setback of 10 feet to allow for a 26 X 40 foot 2-car e:arae:e. thus reQuestine: a
variance of 15 feet.
The property is located on 376 River Road South and is identified as Tax Grid No.
5956-12-926552 in the Town of Wappinger.
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Mr. Cicigline:
Mr. diPiemo:
Mr. Cicigline:
Mr. Fanuele:
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I have no garage and my property is not squared offbut is a comer
piece of property. There is no house near where I want to put my
garage. I have two antique vehicles, a truck and a car that I would
like the garage for. If I put the garage in the yard without a variance
I would be obstructing the river views from my neighbors.
How big is your lot?
It is .46 of an acre.
Usually we grant variances because there is not enough room. In
your case you have plenty of room for this. Ifthere was no room
this would be different.
Mr. Cicigline: But then I would be blocking the views from my neighbors. It
would be among another garage and a bam.
Mr. diPiemo: So you want it in this panhandle?
Mr. Cicigline: Yes.
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Mr. Cicigline: 4 years.
Mr. DellaCorte: Is that a wrap around driveway?
Mr. Cicigline: Yes but I wouldn't be using it.
Mr. Fanuele: If you have the room you should be using it.
Mr. Fanuele:
Mrs. Lukianoff:
Mr. Fanuele:
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At this time Mr. Cicigline went up to the board to show them
pictures.
Can he put this garage so close to that bam?
He shows a two foot setback and three feet is the minimum allowed
although if you increase the fire rating it could work. He must have
a minimum of 6 feet from the other building though.
We will do a site visit this Saturday, October 30,2004 and your
public hearing will be on November 9,2004.
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Zoning Board of Appeals
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Mr. diPierno:
Mr. DellaCorte:
Vote:
Motion to adjourn.
Second the motion.
All present voted aye.
Meeting ended at 8:30 PM
Respectfully Submitted,
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Bif?;a Roberti, Secretary
Secretary - Zoning Board of Appeals
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